Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbryp-0004Ri-Rm for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:44:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbryn-0005Bi-6m for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:44:21 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbryn-0005BZ-07 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:44:21 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lbryj-0002X8-O1 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 21:44:20 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 13SLiFDo2942992; Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:44:15 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Daniel Gustafsson cc: PostgreSQL Hackers , Tomas Vondra Subject: Re: pg_upgrade fails to detect unsupported arrays and ranges In-reply-to: <37F95EC7-9557-4273-A274-A51D565C6B4A@yesql.se> References: <31473.1573412838@sss.pgh.pa.us> <124042D9-F307-402A-80ED-395C154858BA@yesql.se> <4978.1573420358@sss.pgh.pa.us> <63DE9A1C-5F59-47AF-90C9-26A7EF9897B3@yesql.se> <12987.1573427177@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2798740.1619622555@sss.pgh.pa.us> <7062C2A2-BF72-41EC-A058-9A31F8AAC550@yesql.se> <2940601.1619642871@sss.pgh.pa.us> <37F95EC7-9557-4273-A274-A51D565C6B4A@yesql.se> Comments: In-reply-to Daniel Gustafsson message dated "Wed, 28 Apr 2021 22:58:01 +0200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <2942990.1619646255.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:44:15 -0400 Message-ID: <2942991.1619646255@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Daniel Gustafsson writes: > On 28 Apr 2021, at 22:47, Tom Lane wrote: >> This wording is copied-and-pasted from the other similar tests. I agre= e >> that it's advocating a solution that might be overkill, but if we chang= e >> it we should also change the existing messages. = > Good point. >> I don't mind doing that in HEAD; less sure about the back branches, as > I think it would be helpful for users to try and give slightly more expa= nded > advice while (obviously) still always being safe. I=E2=80=99m happy to = take a crack at > that once back unless someone beats me to it. Seems like s/remove the problem tables/drop the problem columns/ is easy and sufficient. >> (I think) these are translatable strings. > If they aren't I think we should try and make them so to as far as we ca= n > reduce language barrier problems in such important messages. Checking, I see they do appear in pg_upgrade's po files. So I propose that we change the existing messages in HEAD but not the back branches. regards, tom lane