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([2605:a601:a6b0:500::1cb]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 6a1803df08f44-6f8b5a2e3b1sm164247936d6.65.2025.05.27.07.53.57 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 27 May 2025 07:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <29a01e91-3018-491c-aa25-43534719e4cd@dunslane.net> Date: Tue, 27 May 2025 10:53:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Cygwin support To: Mark Woodward Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers References: <916d0fd1-a99b-41c4-a017-ff2428bf8cca@dunslane.net> From: Andrew Dunstan Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2025-04-28 Mo 4:53 PM, Mark Woodward wrote: > What are the economics of this? I used PostgreSQL and Cygwin 25 years > ago and am amazed it is still a thing. > How much effort is it to support PostgreSQL on Cygwin? > How many actual users are using PostgreSQL on cygwin in production? (I > should hope none!) > > I would say it is something that should be announced as "deprecated" > and see how many people complain, my bet no one will really care. > Cygwin was a phenomenal hack in its day but I believe that those days > have passed. Please don't top-post on PostgreSQL lists. I don't see it as our role to pass judgements like this on what people use. While Cygwin exists it's not our province to deprecate its use. If the maintenance effort were onerous I might be willing to relook at our support for it, but the simple answer to your first question is that the maintenance effort is close to zero. As I pointed out elsewhere in this thread, even if the server has limited use, the Cygwin psql client is nicer to use on Windows than the native build, reason enough to keep it going, at least until we improve the native build. cheers andrew -- Andrew Dunstan EDB: https://www.enterprisedb.com