Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dQGpz-0008NA-Sl for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:33:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dQGpx-0005Jb-SH for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:33:09 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dQGoQ-0002aI-Qs for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:31:34 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dQGoN-00020N-NI for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:31:34 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id v5SHVRP8030239; Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:31:27 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: Jeff Janes , Michael Paquier , PostgreSQL mailing lists Subject: Re: Reducing pg_ctl's reaction time In-reply-to: <20170627200544.2czwjtdtyy4gr4sv@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <18890.1498508760@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170626203347.6efkdwiadyt33edy@alap3.anarazel.de> <19812.1498510147@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170626205853.ezhnmxpotdy3wokm@alap3.anarazel.de> <15166.1498512630@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170626213414.ejcesidei2hv4h5x@alap3.anarazel.de> <15732.1498513083@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170626215018.2fudv2aha5rkkg4r@alap3.anarazel.de> <17327.1498515236@sss.pgh.pa.us> <15323.1498589958@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20170627200544.2czwjtdtyy4gr4sv@alap3.anarazel.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Tue, 27 Jun 2017 13:05:44 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <30237.1498671087.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 13:31:27 -0400 Message-ID: <30238.1498671087@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org Andres Freund writes: > On 2017-06-27 14:59:18 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> However, it's certainly arguable that this is too much change for an >> optional post-beta patch. > Yea, I think there's a valid case to be made for that. I'm still > inclined to go along with this, it seems we're otherwise just adding > complexity we're going to remove in a bit again. I'm not hearing anyone speaking against doing this now, so I'm going to go ahead with it. > The 8-space thing in multiple places is a bit ugly. How about having a > a bunch of constants declared in one place? While looking this over again, I got worried about the fact that pg_ctl is #including "miscadmin.h". That's a pretty low-level backend header and it wouldn't be surprising at all if somebody tried to put stuff in it that wouldn't compile frontend-side. I think we should take the opportunity, as long as we're touching this stuff, to split the #defines that describe the contents of postmaster.pid into a separate header file. Maybe "utils/pidfile.h" ? regards, tom lane -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers