Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbZXY-00CQY4-Nx for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:44:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbZXX-003wa8-4v for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:44:18 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbZXW-003wZy-R4 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:44:18 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qbZXT-0023zJ-2K for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 04:44:18 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 37V4i7v7305609; Thu, 31 Aug 2023 00:44:07 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Michael Paquier cc: Anthony Roberts , Andrew Dunstan , Mike Holmes , Andres Freund , Ian Lawrence Barwick , Thomas Munro , Julien Rouhaud , PostgreSQL Hackers , robhenry@microsoft.com, "Jonathan S. Katz" , Alvaro Herrera , Amit Kapila , Lina Iyer Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add native windows on arm64 support In-reply-to: References: <00b0804c-3e5d-22b5-c7dd-3efe6d43d78d@dunslane.net> <6d533c8f-9158-33e2-d476-f15bc4e055f1@linaro.org> <219d1120-f383-6e63-1954-b3c0ebefa61c@linaro.org> <80542823-5318-12e9-d306-5bbe35a689b1@linaro.org> Comments: In-reply-to Michael Paquier message dated "Thu, 31 Aug 2023 13:22:16 +0900" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <305607.1693457047.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2023 00:44:07 -0400 Message-ID: <305608.1693457047@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Michael Paquier writes: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 04:12:16PM +0100, Anthony Roberts wrote: >> Just a follow-up: having spoken to the relevant people, sadly, right now, >> we do not have the capacity to be pulling machines out of our day-to-day CI >> tasks to dedicate to specific projects. > Okay, thanks for letting us know. Too bad. > Honestly, I am not sure how to proceed here. Having something in the > buildfarm is necessary IMO, because this is the central place that > community members look at when it comes to monitoring the stability of > a patch committed. > Any opinions from the others? I agree. I'm really uncomfortable with claiming support for Windows-on-ARM if we don't have a buildfarm member testing it. For other platforms that have a track record of multiple hardware support, it might not be a stretch ... but Windows was so resolutely Intel-only for so long that "it works on ARM" is a proposition that I won't trust without hard evidence. There are too many bits of that system that might not have gotten the word yet, or at least not gotten sufficient testing. My vote for this is we don't commit without a buildfarm member. (As a comparison point, I'd still be unsure about our support for macOS-on-ARM if we didn't have buildfarm support for that. That exists, and is being paid for out of my own pocket. I do not have much sympathy for a corporation that claims it can't afford to support one measly buildfarm animal.) regards, tom lane