Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQu1d-0004ZR-GO for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:32:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQu1a-0007P5-Uq for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:32:50 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQu1a-0007Oy-MA for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:32:50 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQu1W-00057d-3D for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 13:32:48 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x4FDWVBe030904; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:32:32 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: David Fetter cc: Stephen Frost , Andres Freund , PostgreSQL Development Subject: Re: New EXPLAIN option: ALL In-reply-to: <20190515060214.GZ28936@fetter.org> References: <20190507073046.GI28936@fetter.org> <20190507154147.l32a3erg4mbycj7u@alap3.anarazel.de> <20190507163411.GM28936@fetter.org> <20190507164430.a7tig676hjzdnyyd@alap3.anarazel.de> <20190507212355.GQ28936@fetter.org> <20190507215449.3a4yb5kkoloq7yyw@alap3.anarazel.de> <4638.1557266803@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190507221255.GO6197@tamriel.snowman.net> <5221.1557267912@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190513055112.GA24409@fetter.org> <20190515060214.GZ28936@fetter.org> Comments: In-reply-to David Fetter message dated "Wed, 15 May 2019 08:02:14 +0200" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <30902.1557927151.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 09:32:31 -0400 Message-ID: <30903.1557927151@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk David Fetter writes: > I hope the patch is a little easier to digest as now attached. To be blunt, I find 500K worth of changes in the regression test outputs to be absolutely unacceptable, especially when said changes are basically worthless from a diagnostic standpoint. There are at least two reasons why this won't fly: * Such a change would be a serious obstacle to back-patching regression test cases that involve explain output. * Some buildfarm members use nonstandard settings (notably force_parallel_mode, but I don't think that's the only one). We are *not* going to maintain variant output files to try to cope with all those combinations. It'd be even more disastrous for private forks that might have their own affected settings. I don't know how to make progress towards the original goal without having a regression-test disaster, but what we have here is one. regards, tom lane