Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iGbAI-0002nn-3e for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:55:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iGbAG-0007jG-4c for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:55:28 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iGbAF-0007j7-SK for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:55:27 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iGbAC-0007qM-UQ for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2019 03:55:27 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x953tLPN031406; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 23:55:21 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Bruce Momjian cc: Justin Pryzby , pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org, Daniel Gustafsson Subject: Re: format of pg_upgrade loadable_libraries warning In-reply-to: <20191005001524.GB21896@momjian.us> References: <20191002172337.GC9680@telsasoft.com> <20191004213746.GD29227@momjian.us> <20191004224008.GQ11241@telsasoft.com> <20191005001524.GB21896@momjian.us> Comments: In-reply-to Bruce Momjian message dated "Fri, 04 Oct 2019 20:15:24 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <31404.1570247721.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 23:55:21 -0400 Message-ID: <31405.1570247721@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Bruce Momjian writes: > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 05:40:08PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: >> I would argue to include in 12.1, since 12 is what most everyone will u= se for >> upgrades, and patch for .1 will help people upgrading for 11 of the nex= t 12 >> months. (But, your patch is more general than mine). > No, there might be tools that depend on the existing format, and this is > the first report of confusion I have read. Translations will also lag behind any such change. Speaking of which, it might be a good idea to include some translator: annotations to help translators understand what context these fragmentary phrases are used in. I'd actually say that my biggest concern with these messages is whether they can translate into something sane. regards, tom lane