Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtDSU-00BOev-Ob for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 20:48:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtDSS-008ze0-P8 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 20:48:01 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([72.32.157.229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtDSS-008zdk-FX for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 20:48:01 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1qtDQK-0019Cj-RE for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 20:45:50 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 39IKjkk33154147; Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:45:46 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Robert Haas cc: Thomas Munro , Michael Paquier , Noah Misch , Vik Fearing , cary huang , pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org Subject: Re: Add support for AT LOCAL In-reply-to: References: <2188264.1697425365@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2191749.1697427017@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20231016045804.c0@rfd.leadboat.com> <20231016055051.3a@rfd.leadboat.com> <2208907.1697435663@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20231016060510.72@rfd.leadboat.com> <2659915.1697521218@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2726901.1697556666@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2820407.1697561128@sss.pgh.pa.us> <2995973.1697583273@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3001171.1697585525@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3122652.1697644948@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Haas message dated "Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:01:42 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <3154145.1697661946.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 16:45:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3154146.1697661946@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Robert Haas writes: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 12:02 PM Tom Lane wrote: >> Probably. Independent of that, it's fair to ask why we're still >> testing against xlc 12.1 and not the considerably-more-recent xlclang, >> or at least xlc 16.1. (I also wonder why we're still testing AIX 7.1 >> rather than an OS version that's not EOL.) > Well, according to Wikipedia, AIX 7.3 (released in 2021) requires > POWER8. AIX 7.2 (released 2015) only requires POWER7, and according to > the buildfarm page, this machine is POWER7. So it could possibly be > upgraded from 7.1 to 7.2, supposing that it is indeed compatible with > that release and that Noah's willing to do it and that there's not an > exorbitant fee and so on, but that still leaves you running an OS > version that is almost certainly closer to EOL than it is to the > original release date. Anything newer would require buying new > hardware, or so I guess. The machine belongs to OSU (via the gcc compile farm), and I see that they have another one that's POWER8 and is running AIX 7.3 [1]. So in principle the buildfarm animals could just be moved over to that one. Perhaps Noah has some particular attachment to 7.1, but now that that's EOL it seems like we shouldn't be paying so much attention to it. My guess is that it's still there in the compile farm because the gcc people think it's still useful to have access to POWER7 hardware; but I doubt there's enough difference for our purposes to be worth dealing with a dead OS and ancient compiler. regards, tom lane [1] https://portal.cfarm.net/machines/list/