Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ta3bR-00FiFe-Cp for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2025 02:02:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ta3bP-009TVc-Qr for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2025 02:02:51 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1ta3bP-009TVT-HO for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2025 02:02:51 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1ta3bM-000dQh-2m for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2025 02:02:51 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 50L22gWn3259118; Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:02:42 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: =?utf-8?Q?Dagfinn_Ilmari_Manns=C3=A5ker?= cc: "Euler Taveira" , "Peter Smith" , "Michael Paquier" , "PostgreSQL Hackers" , "Peter Eisentraut" , "Euler Taveira" Subject: Re: pg_createsubscriber TAP test wrapping makes command options hard to read. In-reply-to: <87ikq93qqa.fsf@wibble.ilmari.org> References: <556792.1733967676@sss.pgh.pa.us> <564915.1733971586@sss.pgh.pa.us> <87pllx5cqn.fsf@wibble.ilmari.org> <87msh159c3.fsf@wibble.ilmari.org> <87o70143p6.fsf@wibble.ilmari.org> <3b6b2595-9822-4e4f-91ee-b6a44dc4b542@app.fastmail.com> <3238498.1737413396@sss.pgh.pa.us> <0f90c5bd-e71f-49ec-ab80-ba2008be5c37@app.fastmail.com> <87ikq93qqa.fsf@wibble.ilmari.org> Comments: In-reply-to =?utf-8?Q?Dagfinn_Ilmari_Manns=C3=A5ker?= message dated "Tue, 21 Jan 2025 01:22:53 +0000" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3259116.1737424962.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:02:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3259117.1737424962@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk =?utf-8?Q?Dagfinn_Ilmari_Manns=C3=A5ker?= writes: > All in all, this makes me +0.5 to bumping the required Perl::Tidy > version, and +0.5 on (at least considering) bumping it to the latest > version before the pre-release-branch pgperltidy run. Nah, I'm pretty much -1 on bumping our perltidy version frequently. That imposes costs on every developer who wants to track it. It's unlikely that anyone will be on a platform that updates it exactly when we decide to change, so most of us are going to be using hand-installed copies that will have to be hand-updated whenever we change versions. As a data point, we were using 20170521 for five years before adopting 20230309, and 20090616 for seven years before that, which is as far back as I can trace any definitive info about which version was being used. Every five years or so sounds like a sane cadence to me, in terms of developer overhead versus likely formatting improvements. (Of course, if a new version comes out that is way better than what we're using, I could be persuaded that it's worth changing. But from what you're showing here, that hasn't happened yet.) regards, tom lane