Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hO7yA-0007uN-G0 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2019 21:49:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hO7y9-0006zC-Av for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2019 21:49:49 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hO7y8-0006wn-R8 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2019 21:49:48 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hO7y6-0002R0-FI for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 07 May 2019 21:49:48 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x47LnfbY003434; Tue, 7 May 2019 17:49:41 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Stephen Frost cc: Robert Haas , Rafia Sabih , Justin Pryzby , PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: make \d pg_toast.foo show its indices In-reply-to: <20190507204809.GM6197@tamriel.snowman.net> References: <20190422154902.GH14223@telsasoft.com> <20190503142721.GC3925@telsasoft.com> <16689.1557158298@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190507151600.GH6197@tamriel.snowman.net> <30641.1557242690@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190507153006.GI6197@tamriel.snowman.net> <20190507204809.GM6197@tamriel.snowman.net> Comments: In-reply-to Stephen Frost message dated "Tue, 07 May 2019 16:48:09 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3432.1557265781.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Tue, 07 May 2019 17:49:41 -0400 Message-ID: <3433.1557265781@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Stephen Frost writes: > Having our test framework deny us useful features just strikes me as > bizarre. This is presuming that it's useful, which is debatable IMO. I think most people will find it useless noise almost all of the time. regards, tom lane