X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Received: from spampd.localdomain (postgresql.org [64.49.215.8]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C83475A45 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:51:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from biglumber.com (biglumber.com [207.228.252.42]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E498C475458 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 32093 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2003 13:51:28 -0000 Received: from biglumber.com (HELO localhost) (207.228.252.42) by 0 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2003 13:51:28 -0000 From: greg@turnstep.com To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Are we losing momentum? X-PGP-Key: 2529 DF6A B8F7 9407 E944 45B4 BC9B 9067 1496 4AC8 In-Reply-To: <200304161250.33745.shridhar_daithankar@nospam.persistent.co.in> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 13:51:28 -0000 X-Mailer: JoyMail 1.37 Message-ID: <34b59b6cbe8a164d2651b17c92c5b1ea@biglumber.com> X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-17.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,IN_REP_TO,NO_REAL_NAME,PGP_SIGNATURE, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT autolearn=ham version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) X-Archive-Number: 200304/579 X-Sequence-Number: 38069 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > In fact I think postgresql is easier to use. Till date, I could never start > mysql by hand and get it behave sanely. pg_ctl or nohup postmaster has always > worked for me. This is weird, because despite mysql's technical inferiority, it really is pretty simple to use. Also seems a little hypocritical of you in light of the RTFM rant later on in your email. :) > Besides postgresql is true to it's resource usage. You allocate 128MB of > shared buffers, and they are consumed. You stop postmaster and all the > buffers are back to system. With mysql, I found that large amount of memory > was never returned to system even after service shutdown. I hate black-boxes > on my system where I can not fathom into. Had to reboot the machine. "Black-boxes"? It's open-source, just like we are. Did you read their manual "start to end"? Did you ask on their mailing lists? I'm no MySQL fan, but I'd rather let them, not us, dish out the FUD. The original poster had some valid points (auto-vacuum and non-intuitive commands) that still need addressing, IMO. - -- Greg Sabino Mullane greg@turnstep.com PGP Key: 0x14964AC8 200304160945 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: http://www.turnstep.com/pgp.html iD8DBQE+nV/EvJuQZxSWSsgRAsaXAKCAY3vGFxDzk9dniqojpi+RK3ToUwCgpv5L Sl6e9Or440U5QeLIhvNsaro= =k5Np -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----