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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a02:8012:c93d:0:260e:bf57:a4e9:8142 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on mail.default.ilande.bv.iomart.io X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Subject: Re: commitfest.postgresql.org is no longer fit for purpose X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 08 May 2019 21:11:16 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on mail.ilande.co.uk) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 20/05/2024 06:56, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote: > In general you find that a series consists of 2 parts: 1) a set of refactorings to > enable a new feature and 2) the new feature itself. Even if the details of 2) are > still under discussion, often it is possible to merge 1) fairly quickly which also > has the knock-on effect of reducing the size of later iterations of the series. This > also helps with new contributors since having parts of the series merged sooner helps > them feel valued and helps to provide immediate feedback. [resend due to DKIM header failure] Something else I also notice is that PostgreSQL doesn't have a MAINTAINERS or equivalent file, so when submitting patches it's difficult to know who is expected to review and/or commit changes to a particular part of the codebase (this is true both with and without the CF system). ATB, Mark.