X-Original-To: pgsql-hackers-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (mx2.hub.org [200.46.204.254]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE1611F6093 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:10:21 -0300 (ADT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at hub.org X-Spam-Score: -1.143 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.143 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.101, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558, SPF_PASS=-0.001] Received: from postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx2.hub.org [200.46.204.254]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZZMCje7TDdgX for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:10:16 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: domain auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey- Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.189]) by postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7219E11F8C01 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 17:10:12 -0300 (ADT) Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id p77so680691nfc for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:10:10 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=n63djGuU4zYKmZ63DK1BuGhUN++EA+JLMHAGymHEayscD6ySEXmKZI2eNDppdlFVS+dNheWbnDb23DS+0DNDwEpq2BPQAr35rkNGpHZxILCyxenr8oQUTPxcogvzzYridFaOkUcIAEGY4pE0GrYZVkkUd9Dzr3/zqBHQBR2j8XE= Received: by 10.48.31.4 with SMTP id e4mr1664658nfe; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.213.14 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <36e682920604181310u740ef76hbc5bd5b63ed75cd2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:10:09 -0700 From: "Jonah H. Harris" To: "Jim C. Nasby" Subject: Re: Google SoC--Idea Request Cc: "Mark Wong" , "Pgsql Hackers" In-Reply-To: <20060418191149.GD49405@pervasive.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <36e682920604151205i75a08030x7c05a6f52fccf095@mail.gmail.com> <20060417205455.GP49405@pervasive.com> <44452F9C.8000401@osdl.org> <20060418191149.GD49405@pervasive.com> X-Archive-Number: 200604/678 X-Sequence-Number: 82401 On 4/18/06, Jim C. Nasby wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 11:27:40AM -0700, Mark Wong wrote: > > Jim C. Nasby wrote: > > >On Sat, Apr 15, 2006 at 03:05:20PM -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote: > > >>All ideas welcome! > > > > > >I know it's not directly PostgreSQL related, but I'd love to see the > > >dbt* code improved. Items on my wish-list: > > > > > >- make it easy to run the test framework and clients on a seperate > > > machine from the database server > > >- keep results in a database > > >- provide a front-end to allow users to schedule tests in a queue > > >- add support for windows, at least for the database (theoretically > > > possible to run that way now, but you have to do everything by hand) > > > > > >Another idea: afaik, spikesource is still offering a bounty for > > >improvements to OSS test suites, something that'd fit well with SoC. > > > > I second this. :) There are also the TPC-App (Java) fair-use > > implementation that I've started and the TPC-E (next gen OLTP) that I > > would like to start. > > Maybe before starting on TPC-E it makes sense to try and get a common > framework for all the different tests built? AFAIK most of the > benchmarks all use a fairly standard client-server infrastructure, so we > should hopefully be able to share that between the different tests... I agree with Jim. A framework would really help out here. All of the tests are basically the same and would benefit from a framework. However, Mark, do you think Java is a reliable benchmarking platform?=20 At EnterpriseDB, we've tried several Java benchmarks and could never get as repeatable or reliable of a benchmark as DBT2 gives you. -- Jonah H. Harris, Database Internals Architect EnterpriseDB Corporation 732.331.1324