Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([2a02:16a8:dc51::56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fGrNa-00023z-Ub for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:37:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fGrNV-00082D-Qj for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:37:25 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fGrNV-000822-Ja for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:37:25 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fGrNS-00008j-5n for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 10 May 2018 19:37:25 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w4AJb4pM000374; Thu, 10 May 2018 15:37:04 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: Alvaro Herrera , Robert Haas , Dagfinn Ilmari =?utf-8?Q?Manns=C3=A5ker?= , John Naylor , Andreas Karlsson , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Cutting initdb's runtime (Perl question embedded) In-reply-to: <20180510174057.lxvpwbgbbghz2zrm@alap3.anarazel.de> References: <20180509153924.32kvslqeqdyco7c5@alvherre.pgsql> <8873.1525881373@sss.pgh.pa.us> <21138.1525969099@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20180510174057.lxvpwbgbbghz2zrm@alap3.anarazel.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Thu, 10 May 2018 10:40:58 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <372.1525981024.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 10 May 2018 15:37:04 -0400 Message-ID: <373.1525981024@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Andres Freund writes: > On 2018-05-10 12:18:19 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Next question is what to do with this. Do we want to sit on it till >> v12, or sneak it in now? > Is there a decent argument for sneaking it in? I don't really have an > opinion. I don't think it'd really be arguable that this'll make testing > meaningfully faster. OTOH, it's fresh in your mind (which can be said > about a lot of patches obviously). Yeah, I had hoped that this might make a noticeable difference on slower buildfarm animals, but some testing shows that it's more likely to be barely above the noise floor. OTOH, in view of Josh's old gripe, maybe it could be argued to be a bug fix, at least on platforms where it does anything. regards, tom lane