Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vG1YY-0067K6-MX for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2025 20:53:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vG1YX-009RkM-Cd for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2025 20:53:36 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1vG1YX-009RkB-35 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2025 20:53:36 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([68.162.161.243]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1vG1YT-005oSU-2B for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 03 Nov 2025 20:53:35 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 5A3KrT5v374723; Mon, 3 Nov 2025 15:53:29 -0500 From: Tom Lane To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro?= Herrera cc: Pg Hackers , Daniel Verite Subject: Re: psql --help=variables missing csv_fieldsep In-reply-to: <202511032011.xiybfttm3rwc@alvherre.pgsql> References: <202511032011.xiybfttm3rwc@alvherre.pgsql> Comments: In-reply-to =?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro?= Herrera message dated "Mon, 03 Nov 2025 21:20:28 +0100" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <374721.1762203209.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2025 15:53:29 -0500 Message-ID: <374722.1762203209@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk =?utf-8?Q?=C3=81lvaro?= Herrera writes: > On 2025-Nov-03, Tom Lane wrote: >> But wait ... is it actually a variable? help.c does list it, but >> as a \pset option: > Yeah, there are two lists: one here in the "\?" output, and another in > the "\? variables" output, which is also `psql --help=variables`. It > lists actual variables but also \pset options and environment variables > psql recognizes. Huh. I would not have called \pset options variables, but I guess somebody thought it made sense. > I find this one you quote somewhat unreadable, so I > was going to propose to remove it, and instead direct the user to look > at "\? variables" for the exhaustive list. That one is also a bit > easier to cross-check, I think. (There's also tab-complete.) Agreed that the set of \pset options has bloated to the point where that presentation is unreadable. regards, tom lane