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* Mail loop at a2000.nl (was Re: [HACKERS] PATCH for pgconnection.h)
@ 1999-07-26 13:45 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
0 siblings, 4 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tom Lane @ 1999-07-26 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>; +Cc: scrappy@hub.org, postgres <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> writes:
> Looks like someone's mailer reinjected this one.
Yes, along with five others that were also about two weeks old.
I recall having noticed several other such incidents in the recent
past, all bearing headers that indicate the retransmitted messages
originally went from the mail list to one <Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl>.
Start of reinjection of this one (note date):
Received: from hardy-1.a2000.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by hardy-1.a2000.nl
(Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA5185;
Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:34:05 +0200
Immediately prior Received: lines:
Received: from smtp1.a2000.nl ([192.168.17.19]) by hardy-1.a2000.nl
(Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAT19D0
for <Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:48:41 +0200
Received: from hub.org ([209.167.229.1])
by smtp1.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #4)
id 112SYe-0002lN-00
for Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:46:44 +0200
Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.167.229.1])
by hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA39425;
Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:40:25 -0400 (EDT)
(envelope-from owner-pgsql-hackers@hub.org)
This morning I sent a polite note to postmaster@cable.a2000.nl, warning
them that they've got a problem with mail looping. It promptly bounced
back with
postmaster@cable.a2000.nl:
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:
<postmaster@cable.a2000.nl>:
host hardy-1.a2000.nl [192.168.17.13]:
550 Invalid recipient <postmaster@cable.a2000.nl>
(Sending to postmaster@a2000.nl instead probably won't help, since it
MX's to the same machines.)
I conclude that a2000.nl is run by a bunch of idiots who can't read
RFCs, let alone operate a mail server competently. I expect that
we will continue to get blessed with regurgitated messages until Marc
pulls any a2000.nl addresses from the mailing lists :-(
regards, tom lane
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* Re: Mail loop at a2000.nl (was Re: [HACKERS] PATCH for pgconnection.h)
@ 1999-07-26 15:03 Jan Wieck <wieck@debis.com>
parent: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: wieck@debis.com @ 1999-07-26 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us; +Cc: vev@michvhf.com; scrappy@hub.org; hackers@postgresql.org
Tom Lane wrote:
> Received: from hardy-1.a2000.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by hardy-1.a2000.nl
> (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA5185;
> Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:34:05 +0200
>
> Immediately prior Received: lines:
>
> Received: from smtp1.a2000.nl ([192.168.17.19]) by hardy-1.a2000.nl
> (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAT19D0
> for <Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:48:41 +0200
And look at the dates!
>
> This morning I sent a polite note to postmaster@cable.a2000.nl, warning
> them that they've got a problem with mail looping. It promptly bounced
> back with
>
> postmaster@cable.a2000.nl:
> SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:
> <postmaster@cable.a2000.nl>:
> host hardy-1.a2000.nl [192.168.17.13]:
> 550 Invalid recipient <postmaster@cable.a2000.nl>
I've also tried to send to postmaster@hardy-1.a2000.nl.
Result: unknown host :-)
But the CC to Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl didn't bounce. Maybe
he'll receive it and can forward it in HARDCOPY to his
pEstmaster.
>
> (Sending to postmaster@a2000.nl instead probably won't help, since it
> MX's to the same machines.)
>
> I conclude that a2000.nl is run by a bunch of idiots who can't read
> RFCs, let alone operate a mail server competently. I expect that
> we will continue to get blessed with regurgitated messages until Marc
> pulls any a2000.nl addresses from the mailing lists :-(
NC
Jan
--
#======================================================================#
# It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. #
# Let's break this rule - forgive me. #
#========================================= wieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) #
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* Re: Mail loop at a2000.nl (was Re: [HACKERS] PATCH for pgconnection.h)
@ 1999-07-26 16:53 The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
parent: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: The Hermit Hacker @ 1999-07-26 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>; postgres <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
going...going...gone...
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Tom Lane wrote:
> Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com> writes:
> > Looks like someone's mailer reinjected this one.
>
> Yes, along with five others that were also about two weeks old.
> I recall having noticed several other such incidents in the recent
> past, all bearing headers that indicate the retransmitted messages
> originally went from the mail list to one <Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl>.
>
> Start of reinjection of this one (note date):
>
> Received: from hardy-1.a2000.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by hardy-1.a2000.nl
> (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with SMTP id AAA5185;
> Mon, 26 Jul 1999 13:34:05 +0200
>
> Immediately prior Received: lines:
>
> Received: from smtp1.a2000.nl ([192.168.17.19]) by hardy-1.a2000.nl
> (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAT19D0
> for <Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl>; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:48:41 +0200
> Received: from hub.org ([209.167.229.1])
> by smtp1.a2000.nl with esmtp (Exim 2.02 #4)
> id 112SYe-0002lN-00
> for Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl; Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:46:44 +0200
> Received: from hub.org (hub.org [209.167.229.1])
> by hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA39425;
> Fri, 9 Jul 1999 00:40:25 -0400 (EDT)
> (envelope-from owner-pgsql-hackers@hub.org)
>
> This morning I sent a polite note to postmaster@cable.a2000.nl, warning
> them that they've got a problem with mail looping. It promptly bounced
> back with
>
> postmaster@cable.a2000.nl:
> SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:
> <postmaster@cable.a2000.nl>:
> host hardy-1.a2000.nl [192.168.17.13]:
> 550 Invalid recipient <postmaster@cable.a2000.nl>
>
> (Sending to postmaster@a2000.nl instead probably won't help, since it
> MX's to the same machines.)
>
> I conclude that a2000.nl is run by a bunch of idiots who can't read
> RFCs, let alone operate a mail server competently. I expect that
> we will continue to get blessed with regurgitated messages until Marc
> pulls any a2000.nl addresses from the mailing lists :-(
>
> regards, tom lane
>
Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy
Systems Administrator @ hub.org
primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
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* Re: Mail loop at a2000.nl (was Re: [HACKERS] PATCH for pgconnection.h)
@ 1999-07-27 12:42 Maarten Boekhold <boekhold@tibco.com>
parent: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Maarten Boekhold @ 1999-07-27 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>; +Cc: Vince Vielhaber <vev@michvhf.com>; scrappy@hub.org, postgres <hackers@postgreSQL.org>
> I conclude that a2000.nl is run by a bunch of idiots who can't read
> RFCs, let alone operate a mail server competently. I expect that
> we will continue to get blessed with regurgitated messages until Marc
> pulls any a2000.nl addresses from the mailing lists :-(
Could be that they're idiots, if so I hope they can find some competent people
to help them out there. They're the TV cable operators for Amsterdam and surroundings
and have probably about half a million houses connected to their network.
Since about a year and a half (I guess) they're into internet over cable modems, and
actually the bandwidth they deliver is pretty impressive (especially if you're
used to 28k8 modems ;)
Maarten
--
Maarten Boekhold, boekhold@tibco.com
TIBCO Finance Technology Inc.
The Atrium
Strawinskylaan 3051
1077 ZX Amsterdam, The Netherlands
tel: +31 20 3012158, fax: +31 20 3012358
http://www.tibco.com
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* Re: Mail loop at a2000.nl (was Re: [HACKERS] PATCH for pgconnection.h)
@ 1999-08-01 00:08 gravity <z.nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl>
parent: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
3 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: gravity @ 1999-08-01 00:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jwieck@debis.com; tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us; +Cc: vev@michvhf.com; scrappy@hub.org; hackers@postgresql.org
At 17:03 26-7-99 +0200, Jan Wieck wrote:
> And look at the dates!
>> This morning I sent a polite note to postmaster@cable.a2000.nl, warning
>> them that they've got a problem with mail looping. It promptly bounced
>> back with
> But the CC to Z.Nijmeyers@cable.a2000.nl didn't bounce. Maybe
> he'll receive it and can forward it in HARDCOPY to his
> pEstmaster.
I'm really sorry that my ISP is doing wonderful :-) things to it's
mail-servers
>> I conclude that a2000.nl is run by a bunch of idiots who can't read
>> RFCs, let alone operate a mail server competently. I expect that
they are a bunch of idiots and complaining doesn't help a bit, in the past
couple of weeks everyone in amsterdam who has cable internet, has had
extreme trouble with email.
>> we will continue to get blessed with regurgitated messages until Marc
>> pulls any a2000.nl addresses from the mailing lists :-(
If the problem persists with a2000 messages looping back please let me know
and I will unsubscribe from the list and resubscribe using another email
address
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1999-07-26 13:45 Mail loop at a2000.nl (was Re: [HACKERS] PATCH for pgconnection.h) Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
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1999-07-26 16:53 ` The Hermit Hacker <scrappy@hub.org>
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