Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mf1TY-0003we-Fg for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:01:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mf1T0-0005wH-Ku for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:00:50 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mf1T0-0005w8-CD for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:00:50 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mf1Sy-0002Po-BI for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:00:50 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 19PF0gRf3888810; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:00:42 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Robert Haas cc: Andrew Dunstan , Alvaro Herrera , PostgreSQL Hackers , Andres Freund Subject: Re: pg_dump versus ancient server versions In-reply-to: References: <202110222351.3f42l5fgo3lw@alvherre.pgsql> <3783090.1635111977@sss.pgh.pa.us> <3883429.1635171820@sss.pgh.pa.us> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Haas message dated "Mon, 25 Oct 2021 10:40:29 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <3888808.1635174042.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:00:42 -0400 Message-ID: <3888809.1635174042@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Robert Haas writes: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:23 AM Tom Lane wrote: >> Roughly speaking, I think the policy should be "no feature bug fixes, >> not even security fixes, for EOL'd branches; only fixes that are >> minimally necessary to make it build on newer platforms". And >> I want to have a sunset provision even for that. Fixing every branch >> forevermore doesn't scale. > Sure, but you can ameliorate that a lot by just saying it's something > people have the *option* to do, not something anybody is *expected* to > do. I agree it's best if we continue to discourage back-patching bug > fixes into supported branches, but I also think we don't need to be > too stringent about this. Actually, I think we do. If I want to test against 7.4, ISTM I want to test against the last released 7.4 version, not something with arbitrary later changes. Otherwise, what exactly is the point? >> In principle we might just need to add resurrected branches back to >> the branches_to_build list. Given my view of what the back-patching >> policy ought to be, a new build in an old branch might only be >> required a couple of times a year, which would not be an undue >> investment of buildfarm resources. > I suppose it would be useful if we had the ability to do new runs only > when the source code has changed... Uh, don't we have that already? I know you can configure a buildfarm animal to force a run at least every-so-often, but it's not required, and I don't think it's even the default. regards, tom lane