Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oY8DN-0004jU-CD for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:52:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oY8CO-0008Ft-87 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:51:44 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oY8CN-0008Fk-Or for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:51:43 +0000 Received: from mail.postgrespro.ru ([93.174.131.139]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oY8CL-0004sv-2M for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 15:51:43 +0000 Received: from mail.postgrespro.ru (cyclops.postgrespro.ru [93.174.131.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mail.postgrespro.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6892C21C04FB; Tue, 13 Sep 2022 18:51:39 +0300 (MSK) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=postgrespro.ru; s=mail; t=1663084299; bh=2rtmju2ampHCYSEblo6fhfG/BqC69LdX/C5xzpBIZ8U=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=bz1RtqAhqgRsTQbXZrdoZjLidIZ3cvn5sL7nnqsJGIvUqdVex6jWxNolGtzi0kt85 qT7k/9a4R1zaxrabgLxuFrKpQOnr7aw/E68foeU1oDaDIz88BL6lI6XArzzvrKt42J 55go/x42Qm4zazAJ0NeE/qFtCuUbxJn5JLVvJ6c0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 18:51:39 +0300 From: Marina Polyakova To: Peter Eisentraut Cc: Justin Pryzby , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Julien Rouhaud , Daniel Verite , AndrewBille@gmail.com, michael@paquier.xyz Subject: Re: ICU for global collation In-Reply-To: <1f86f120-7b02-68f6-a434-132d054afe33@enterprisedb.com> References: <20220628013205.GH19662@telsasoft.com> <7d74b2d7-7fc6-f55b-3f77-c0e05569b64e@enterprisedb.com> <7ad26354e75259f59c4a6c6997b8ee32@postgrespro.ru> <20220824085923.jro5ao2m5b4mdll5@jrouhaud> <13468bee-a5b4-65aa-932c-c12584f4458d@enterprisedb.com> <7c99c132dc9c0ac630e0127f032ac480@postgrespro.ru> <20220909164625.GN31833@telsasoft.com> <60facfef2a8d54b227500260e86d823e@postgrespro.ru> <1f86f120-7b02-68f6-a434-132d054afe33@enterprisedb.com> User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.4.11 Message-ID: <38d2aac40a991b20adf032e509c6eff5@postgrespro.ru> X-Sender: m.polyakova@postgrespro.ru Organization: Postgres Professional Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 2022-09-13 15:41, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 13.09.22 07:34, Marina Polyakova wrote: >> I agree with you that it is more comfortable and more similar to what >> has already been done in initdb. IMO it would be easier to do it like >> this: >> >> diff --git a/src/bin/scripts/createdb.c b/src/bin/scripts/createdb.c >> index >> e523e58b2189275dc603a06324a2f28b0f49d8b7..a1482df3d981a680dd3322052e7c03ddacc8dc26 >> 100644 >> --- a/src/bin/scripts/createdb.c >> +++ b/src/bin/scripts/createdb.c >> @@ -161,12 +161,10 @@ main(int argc, char *argv[]) >> >>      if (locale) >>      { >> -        if (lc_ctype) >> -            pg_fatal("only one of --locale and --lc-ctype can be >> specified"); >> -        if (lc_collate) >> -            pg_fatal("only one of --locale and --lc-collate can be >> specified"); >> -        lc_ctype = locale; >> -        lc_collate = locale; >> +        if (!lc_ctype) >> +            lc_ctype = locale; >> +        if (!lc_collate) >> +            lc_collate = locale; >>      } >> >>      if (encoding) > > done that way Thank you! >>> BTW it's somewhat crummy that it uses a string comparison, so if you >>> write "UTF8" without a dash, it says this; it took me a few minutes >>> to >>> see the difference... >>> >>> postgres=# create database a LC_COLLATE "en_US.UTF8" LC_CTYPE >>> "en_US.UTF8" LOCALE "en_US.UTF8"; >>> ERROR:  new collation (en_US.UTF8) is incompatible with the collation >>> of the template database (en_US.UTF-8) >> >> Perhaps we could check the locale itself with the function >> normalize_libc_locale_name (collationcmds.c). But ISTM that the >> current check is a safety net in case the function >> pg_get_encoding_from_locale (chklocale.c) returns -1 or >> PG_SQL_ASCII... > > This is not new behavior in PG15, is it? No, it has always existed [1] AFAICS.. [1] https://github.com/postgres/postgres/commit/61d967498802ab86d8897cb3c61740d7e9d712f6 -- Marina Polyakova Postgres Professional: http://www.postgrespro.com The Russian Postgres Company