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Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 11:41:47 +0200
From: Thierry Missimilly <THIERRY.MISSIMILLY@BULL.NET>
Organization: BSIS/R&D
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To: Wayne Armstrong <wdarmst@bacchus.com.au>
Cc: Tony Grant <tony@tgds.net>,
	postgres list <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Subject: Re: Are we losing momentum?
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Hi,
Your experience is very interesting.
But could you tell me what is the Database size ?

    Regards,
    Thierry

Wayne Armstrong wrote:

> ** Reply to message from Tony Grant <tony@tgds.net> on 15 Apr 2003 08:12:04
> +0200
> Hi,
>  I've got to agree with this.
>  We have just been through the excercise of porting our quite extensive fleet
> maintenance and accounting package from db2 to postgres. While the port was not
> without pain :) the results are very good. We run windows clients, (mostly),
> and whatever the database of choice performs best on for the backend. We are
> seeing performance gains for the 20-100 user bracket of a factor of 10 to 20
> for switching from db2 to postgres on the same platform.
>  We literally could not port this stuff to mysql. It does not have enough
> feature to support us :)
>  Definitely the story is not that postgres competes with mysql/access but
> rather with db2/oracle, and the point in time recovery coming in the next
> release, just strengthens that story a whole lot more too.
>
> And, client reaction to an opensource (free :) database on linux has been very
> enthusiastic.
>
> Regards,
> Wayne
> http://www.bacchus.com.au
>
> > On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 00:37, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > > Several people have asked if we are losing momentum.  Specifically, they
> > > are concerned about Red Hat dropping their Red Hat Database and instead
> > > distributing PostgreSQL as part of Red Hat Enterprise Server, and they
> > > are concerned about recent press articles about MySQL.
> >
> > Just reading GENERAL every day shows quite the contrary! There are more
> > and more questions which really belong on NOVICE. More and more
> > questions about porting applications from MySQL and Access.
> >
> > RedHat renaming "PostgreSQL" to "PostgreSQL" after a short stint a.k.a.
> > "Red Hat Database" is a very positive step.
> >
> > Lots of stupid journalists are starting to write "replace Oracle with
> > MySQL" rubbish. I am very concerned about this because the DBA who is
> > stupid enough to do this will fail miserably and get the wrong
> > impression about free RDBMS.
> >
> > Lets forget the "replace MySQL with PostgreSQL" stuff and go looking for
> > higher end converts. Our marketing push should be "replace Oracle with
> > PostgreSQL and replace Access with MySQL". This puts the emphasis on
> > which database can do what...
> >
> > Just my 2 EURO cents
> >
> > Cheers
> > Tony Grant
> > (yes I use PostgreSQL where MySQL would suffice...)
> >
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