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Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 15:25:35 -0400
From: Jan Wieck <JanWieck@Yahoo.com>
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To: Tommi Maekitalo <t.maekitalo@epgmbh.de>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Subject: Re: SAP and MySQL ...
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Tommi Maekitalo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There was a german article in heise news. See 
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/data/hps-23.05.03-000/.
> 
> MySQL gets stored procedures and transactions and all the nice features, you 
> need for a real database (and postgresql already has) by throwing the code 
> away an replacing it with sapdb.

Hardly.

SAP failed on the attempt to open source ADABAS even more miserably than 
Borland with Interbase. Now it looks like they found someone who said 
"we know open source, we can do that, oh pick me, me, me, pick meeeeee!"

MySQL on the other hand has for sure a big user community and is one of 
the favorite open source projects of the IT press. What all the 
lemming-like humpty-dumpty article writers fail to understand is the 
difference between a user- and a core developer community. The latter 
mainly consists of 2 people in the MySQL case, Monty and David.

I doubt that those two can drop the support for the existing MySQL user 
base anytime soon. And while sure converting everything from MySQL to 
SAPDB would be a good idea, there are probably more people in the world 
who know how to convert MySQL to PostgreSQL than to SAPDB ... hehe.


Jan

> 
> 
> Tommi
> 
> 
> Am Sonntag, 25. Mai 2003 21:37 schrieb Hans-Jürgen Schönig:
>> This is what I have seen in the SAP DB mailing list this weekend ...
>> Maybe all of us should have some fun.
>>
>> SAP has finally gone completely insane.
>> I can already see Monty on every SAP advertisment *nocomment*.
>> This is the worst thing I have ever seen.
>>
>> 	Hans
>>
>>
>> SAP bets on MySQL
>> The software giant SAP entered a partnership with the Swedish database
>> developer MvSQL AB. Objective of this collaboration is the unified(?)
>> development of a new Open-Source database system for Enterprise
>> applications. This move fits well into the concept of SAP to reduce the
>> commercial importance of database server.
>>
>> ....
>> <snip> some general words about MySQL & SAPDB </snip>
>> ....
>>
>> After a multi-year collaboration and based on both products (MySQL &
>> SAPDB), a new server shall be developed. [Grammatically, it isn't 100%
>> clear if this "multi-year collaboration" refers to the past of to something
>> that has yet to come]. "The primary responsibility of the development lies
>> at MySQL", declares SAP speaker Karl-Heinz Hess in a newsletter. Support
>> for the database will be divided between MySQL & SAPDB. As a side-effect
>> SAP will gain open access to the giant community of MySQL specialists and
>> developers.
>>
>> Until the new system is finished, the current SAPDB will be continued in
>> Walldorf, but under the name MySQL. The new branding shall expressively be
>> the only change that current SAPDB user have to get accustomed with.</end>
>> ....
> 


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