X-Original-To: pgsql-general-postgresql.org@localhost.postgresql.org Received: from localhost (unknown [64.117.224.193]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB00F30DD76 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 12:29:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from svr1.postgresql.org ([64.117.224.193]) by localhost (svr1.postgresql.org [64.117.224.193]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 56861-10 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:29:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from europa.janwieck.net (h00045a2e4e7c.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.131.181.55]) by svr1.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB8E30DC60 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 09:29:23 -0300 (ADT) Received: from Yahoo.com (momjian.navpoint.com [207.106.42.251]) (authenticated) by europa.janwieck.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5CCTMc22584; Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:29:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3EE871FC.8000206@Yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:28:44 -0400 From: Jan Wieck Organization: Unorganized User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ian Linwood Subject: Re: [HACKERS] SAP and MySQL ... [and Benchmark] References: <3EE08D0E.9020603@Yahoo.com> <9912704157.20030606203416@darksideofthemoon.org.uk> <3EE0F5A8.6070602@Yahoo.com> <17522741330.20030609232208@darksideofthemoon.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archive-Number: 200306/595 X-Sequence-Number: 43525 Ian Linwood wrote: > Hello Jan, > > Friday, June 6, 2003, 9:12:24 PM, you wrote: > >> I think Open Source means more than that. It means especially Open for >> ideas, open for input. Open for people and companies to join the team, >> contribute and take part in the decision making. That all is totally >> impossible in the MySQL project. Not because it could not be done, but >> because the owner of the commercial product MySQL does not want it to >> happen. > > Although this is an entirely valid opinion. I don't 100% agree with > this point of view. > > Just because a project is open source (OS), doesn't mean that all and > sundry should have an input. > > OS projects should be open to offers of contribution, but projects should > reserve the right to reject that contribution. Hell no, I didn't mean that! We sure reserve the right to reject contributions and make frequently use of that right. That the PostgreSQL CORE team does not "as such" take strong positions in technical questions should not indicate a lack of leadership. I think for the current size of the project and the very mature and civilized culture of the actual development community, this form of rather passive leadership is a good fit. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #================================================== JanWieck@Yahoo.com #