Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1togm8-00E4IN-V3 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:42:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1togm9-001n10-QI for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:42:24 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1togm9-001n0p-Fn for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:42:24 +0000 Received: from mail-wr1-x42b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::42b]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1togm6-000V83-0c for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 10:42:23 +0000 Received: by mail-wr1-x42b.google.com with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-38f403edb4eso1983703f8f.3 for ; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 02:42:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1740912140; x=1741516940; darn=lists.postgresql.org; h=in-reply-to:from:content-language:references:cc:to:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=eQ3bdxi1tAmfW3oiJQwpixx4WZqvF/KEVn48jBBqB4A=; b=mFdZJeOy2JhtHAGGoRVf2TcCfKWZl8Aa6y1VjOxR4YIBEShd0WxbW+188ay6i8P/jo fuIpNgS1CuYSPFf+GQV6O2r9yr6Aonj9/i+io9Uyyj0FnbNervt8JGb9uaEGpa2xgKWW dJrqtsf1Z1DSU2rQ0+Cfy4hAWB1rhf4XVto14jQKpEKX93XdJvIdBPHfQqgmJKF/2Z5+ YiORP5daxypvjpb3zQ3ppn4Tmy//LBc8k/IEjVh0o1KBWxvD8yOvoR/7GWXhz348b2hU GsYPewSo11xDXgZAgUdQTCaM2dGtzDkWzMN/J4jLadRvWh4ADhfhHlXql+X0HQsMN/TG phqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1740912140; x=1741516940; h=in-reply-to:from:content-language:references:cc:to:subject :user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from:to :cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=eQ3bdxi1tAmfW3oiJQwpixx4WZqvF/KEVn48jBBqB4A=; b=VUm/m6iFSVico/rP7WmXM7ksxcBeWU9qlmUdBduULm4hiiGwYotnssEngZuEtJlcmz H8eok571fY1gugO//uF8tQdMooERU8CLiNZBMuUj3TXbA0sLfxCJEXCOhLQJY6iWrnSk t2/j8ZnchEXaRR67GQXnIYNQBXjMOx7K352Vv6JWRN6hbUpa12wpiHagO6uIhIe4sZtk Joj2So8B6r61lhnhgYoTko8JPqlZEpnGT9xfkIE4cjzdU0tqyEadyWmM1m1fKFWxFfzp SlM8TUObge4IN9n2La1ONv4OMDarksTVaFg0vD4UySpfhlbBfECCZNtCxH8OcIXNa3gU sbPA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwF32s2t8X88QV8p9QwqXHEWNE228LvQX2HcqBNWkzWRUBLrrOu OLf6S55K8Fwf91aAXdJ+aKKtjxSWabAioeNJ85Mbu4axWqqFwUi6 X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncuys41fMxq4bStdY4Zk88t1Xk2on01TV4e+AoSFD31+6DLQyh8j5g+jX9ArE3C bQEOfDsZIHGjayN7JGRDsuVbZLTxmhTD6/F48lgm2ST6Nd5ib4TKDA2GRCwEfdZvIaCyee2omd9 7H3KoUeGBeMshtIcTHdQxxwGNLwwKoFGZr1XLVXkZvvDRrzDa2HuNLcFvZfAQau8m/D1VVxDUwz SImnI/rNx6XVq+2mzzYoNKMNnp9K6PUsKburdWi/EOSJ0/9OKPecszffWftmQH9MCzNONFtK33s Sd+vPslY8/E434WcUNAsetzRlB7FT/EajAQ+aw4rcUb40E4L/CWgiTH2zI2xY2BN1T95Ayie0yg s/5N6qMFBSCF6NMZGOw9Vfa3d3cbxM2TD6w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFLkA7tShN/M9UpLWQcPSdam7BOegpMlRiXPcPWFGVkbm13OLYtYN5ktyt3YHhh1mvr2+NeRw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6000:4022:b0:390:ffd0:4138 with SMTP id ffacd0b85a97d-390ffd04350mr2120445f8f.24.1740912139691; Sun, 02 Mar 2025 02:42:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPV6:2a0d:6fc2:4bf3:1500:8c2a:75e7:c331:1461? ([2a0d:6fc2:4bf3:1500:8c2a:75e7:c331:1461]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ffacd0b85a97d-390e4795d1asm10839463f8f.4.2025.03.02.02.42.18 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Mar 2025 02:42:19 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------6apMN0SDJGzaCIpR0YigUKsu" Message-ID: <3aaaddc1-dda9-4d5f-ade5-312a66c3e83a@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2025 12:42:17 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Doc: clarify possibility of ephemeral discrepancies between state and wait_event in pg_stat_activity To: Sami Imseih Cc: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org References: <8a275154-a654-44b0-ab37-197802f04c7b@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Alex Friedman In-Reply-To: List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6apMN0SDJGzaCIpR0YigUKsu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > discrepancy will look like. What about we do something much more > simplified, such > as the below: > > """ > To keep the reporting overhead low, the system does not attempt to synchronize > activity data for a backend. As a result, ephemeral discrepancies may > exist between > the view’s columns. > """ Yes, I believe it makes sense to make it more generic. Attached v3 with a slight tweak: + in the system. To keep the reporting overhead low, the system does not attempt to + synchronize different aspects of activity data for a backend. As a result, ephemeral + discrepancies may exist between the view's columns. Best regards, Alex Friedman --------------6apMN0SDJGzaCIpR0YigUKsu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; name="v3-0001-Clarify-possibility-of-ephemeral-discrepancies-be.patch" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename*0="v3-0001-Clarify-possibility-of-ephemeral-discrepancies-be.pa"; filename*1="tch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 RnJvbSA1OGRlODg0NjlmNjIwMWFlNjk4ZWUzNGRlYmNkZWMwMjg1MjZhNzJhIE1vbiBTZXAg MTcgMDA6MDA6MDAgMjAwMQpGcm9tOiBBbGV4IEZyaWVkbWFuIDxhbGV4ZjAxQGdtYWlsLmNv bT4KRGF0ZTogV2VkLCAyNiBGZWIgMjAyNSAxOTo1OTo1OSArMDIwMApTdWJqZWN0OiBbUEFU Q0ggdjNdIENsYXJpZnkgcG9zc2liaWxpdHkgb2YgZXBoZW1lcmFsIGRpc2NyZXBhbmNpZXMg YmV0d2Vlbgogc3RhdGUgYW5kIHdhaXRfZXZlbnQgaW4gcGdfc3RhdF9hY3Rpdml0eS4KCi0t LQogZG9jL3NyYy9zZ21sL21vbml0b3Jpbmcuc2dtbCB8IDQgKysrLQogMSBmaWxlIGNoYW5n ZWQsIDMgaW5zZXJ0aW9ucygrKSwgMSBkZWxldGlvbigtKQoKZGlmZiAtLWdpdCBhL2RvYy9z cmMvc2dtbC9tb25pdG9yaW5nLnNnbWwgYi9kb2Mvc3JjL3NnbWwvbW9uaXRvcmluZy5zZ21s CmluZGV4IDkxNzhmMWQzNGVmLi4wZTM0YjM1MDliOCAxMDA2NDQKLS0tIGEvZG9jL3NyYy9z Z21sL21vbml0b3Jpbmcuc2dtbAorKysgYi9kb2Mvc3JjL3NnbWwvbW9uaXRvcmluZy5zZ21s CkBAIC0xMDE2LDcgKzEwMTYsOSBAQCBwb3N0Z3JlcyAgIDI3MDkzICAwLjAgIDAuMCAgMzAw OTYgIDI3NTIgPyAgICAgICAgU3MgICAxMTozNCAgIDA6MDAgcG9zdGdyZXM6IHNlcgogICAg IGl0IG1heSBvciBtYXkgbm90IGJlIDxsaXRlcmFsPndhaXRpbmc8L2xpdGVyYWw+IG9uIHNv bWUgZXZlbnQuICBJZiB0aGUgc3RhdGUKICAgICBpcyA8bGl0ZXJhbD5hY3RpdmU8L2xpdGVy YWw+IGFuZCA8c3RydWN0ZmllbGQ+d2FpdF9ldmVudDwvc3RydWN0ZmllbGQ+IGlzIG5vbi1u dWxsLCBpdAogICAgIG1lYW5zIHRoYXQgYSBxdWVyeSBpcyBiZWluZyBleGVjdXRlZCwgYnV0 IGlzIGJlaW5nIGJsb2NrZWQgc29tZXdoZXJlCi0gICAgaW4gdGhlIHN5c3RlbS4KKyAgICBp biB0aGUgc3lzdGVtLiBUbyBrZWVwIHRoZSByZXBvcnRpbmcgb3ZlcmhlYWQgbG93LCB0aGUg c3lzdGVtIGRvZXMgbm90IGF0dGVtcHQgdG8KKyAgICBzeW5jaHJvbml6ZSBkaWZmZXJlbnQg YXNwZWN0cyBvZiBhY3Rpdml0eSBkYXRhIGZvciBhIGJhY2tlbmQuIEFzIGEgcmVzdWx0LCBl cGhlbWVyYWwKKyAgICBkaXNjcmVwYW5jaWVzIG1heSBleGlzdCBiZXR3ZWVuIHRoZSB2aWV3 J3MgY29sdW1ucy4KICAgIDwvcGFyYT4KICAgPC9ub3RlPgogCi0tIAoyLjQxLjAKCg== --------------6apMN0SDJGzaCIpR0YigUKsu--