Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1apK6w-0000zh-Si for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:29:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1apK6w-0007AG-7T for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:29:26 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1apK6u-00076k-MS for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:29:24 +0000 Received: from mail-wm0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::234]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1apK6r-0004ix-PD for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:29:23 +0000 Received: by mail-wm0-x234.google.com with SMTP id u206so78057094wme.1 for ; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:29:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=2ndquadrant-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HenTUmyfPdOmLy1dH4Ii0ACLRo2Kse3i04M0sREEePc=; b=w9GcTpYSsoPVnKq8v2ZLkYHyfx0JLGQ6WgQLmeFU46lkDYJisFOA8H8SNm0mJ5SW1j 2CLJMkWgzNR/VcdthCDarSvWEyJ+6HS4wmsMIy2l/WtH52fbkd7DBNXT83ZiO1W/9Rt0 UcQ4pQRfXf0I3KwLbyVXKUQzudcUAHdWC9zjPLSqem+ptabQGBnlo1MlphnRn/e0fJzU kd5Bc+Iz8NRLafbQnAAAe9uRcOL+UPg2X9aduEKmTmVLJpkYnb5QAjQDQ7AiIXMqhhnZ x6+Hq8mQZmGCKwb0k9jvduuwht4vDdLGIYfwPD4eEqfCXPTi4pRxCS2IosOPPu+7zU4w s+Sg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HenTUmyfPdOmLy1dH4Ii0ACLRo2Kse3i04M0sREEePc=; b=XpsYFD4gXjDezSQIppzJ+G29DdK9nJNx8/1sN/jNuvm5KllT+590hPdl8PXuci9Plp iWdOHdzrQlRZgyf898lI/sIedZ1D0e4pHxBlkM5wJqrpXcNQdSr3xCuwt5I7uVTVsixR UQcDcKDekoBDmxyBkDfI+5pOm3V32dyS5h3t6sObq5lKhHkZS3BPK2wanBFl8oRpr0CO SxMUmAonvbUS7ZOUf2xUklAChoVq/opIhwg1X3MsjL7qOsnh+1wuB4Cf45VnfcPqQwbp wQ9sa2t9QnuSWUfxqfGlhRhZfgWWhG+B3WG83hMnM3otUV1NgMbYVDjlox4JdoZOosFX iyKA== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJJjcgVemMTaVcQ9kQqMxGJDjx9o2/zT3yxwnA9aaKaPrpktqa9x3fWkg8SNO5GkpeBnRtdbF+bgpo7Zss/DCFZnVO4AcmUpMDlEZs+e/um4u+LHWV0+2sQw7pu3N3VkrGyzub/EHSUpxqKAQRbopGxDtig8ze93Ua4F1gNTwMNL3k89D2YTPGNDNc7mRc4dcUeNW1HJ X-Received: by 10.194.173.234 with SMTP id bn10mr22429678wjc.149.1460312959916; Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.137.2.20] ([213.14.71.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w79sm12400939wme.19.2016.04.10.11.29.17 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: multivariate statistics v14 To: Simon Riggs , Tatsuo Ishii References: <5d1d62a6-6228-188c-e079-c1be59942168@2ndquadrant.com> <20160409.082146.2151665005996934911.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp> <77be1e99-4f97-9a0c-64b7-472fa0ba4800@2ndquadrant.com> <20160410.023757.532440443943028713.t-ishii@sraoss.co.jp> Cc: Robert Haas , David Steele , Tom Lane , =?UTF-8?Q?=c3=81lvaro_Herrera?= , Petr Jelinek , Jeff Janes , PostgreSQL-development From: Tomas Vondra Message-ID: <3d9919e9-6fe6-e3c4-d1e7-cd0192ed58d5@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 20:29:16 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:46.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/46.0a2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 04/10/2016 10:25 AM, Simon Riggs wrote: > On 9 April 2016 at 18:37, Tatsuo Ishii > wrote: > > > But I still think it wouldn't move the patch any closer to committable > > state, because what it really needs is review whether the catalog > > definition makes sense, whether it should be more like pg_statistic, > > and so on. Only then it makes sense to describe the catalog structure > > in the SGML docs, I think. That's why I added some basic SGML docs for > > CREATE/DROP/ALTER STATISTICS, which I expect to be rather stable, and > > not the catalog and other low-level stuff (which is commented heavily > > in the code anyway). > > Without "user-level docs" (now I understand that the term means all > SGML docs for you), it is very hard to find a visible > characteristics/behavior of the patch. CREATE/DROP/ALTER STATISTICS > just defines a user interface, and does not help how it affects to the > planning. The READMEs do not help either. > > In this case reviewing your code is something like reviewing a program > which has no specification. > > That's the reason why I said before below, but it was never seriously > considered. > > > I would likely have said this myself but didn't even get that far. > > Your contribution was useful and went further than anybody else's > review, so thank you. 100% agreed. Thanks for the useful feedback. -- Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers