Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.204.183]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D782E0080 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:46:13 -0300 (ADT) Received: from developer.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.71]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.183]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 35627-07 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:46:06 -0300 (ADT) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.186]) by developer.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 612A02E0085 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:46:08 -0300 (ADT) Received: from pse.dyndns.org (p548F208D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.143.32.141]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKxQS-1K4gwv3BP2-0005nT; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:46:06 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by pse.dyndns.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1K4gwu-0003Pj-Sx; Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:46:04 +0200 Message-ID: <484985EF.8080403@pse-consulting.de> Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:46:07 +0200 From: Andreas Pflug User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Lane CC: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Overhauling GUCS References: <29525.1212613052@sss.pgh.pa.us> <48472E47.7030701@dunslane.net> <20080605162400.GF16502@alvh.no-ip.org> <48481CBF.6040602@enterprisedb.com> <48481E3A.4010306@hagander.net> <20080605174209.GL16502@alvh.no-ip.org> <20080605212129.GI14498@yugib.highrise.ca> <3F927D52-A0FD-4575-8D24-F0F70C459235@kineticode.com> <4848FAA6.8000903@pse-consulting.de> <87ej7aeuqx.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> <4849137C.3040008@pse-consulting.de> <877id2erp6.fsf@oxford.xeocode.com> <48492356.4040506@pse-consulting.de> <1618.1212765176@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <1618.1212765176@sss.pgh.pa.us> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/hkd9szf1d4qxIuCKEcVcodYM4RtDmB63f4x3 VQegC7oJfbSaBfBxnVuGHPhDoeJDh8fcPeVoFzewMWvnU0RMQe o4NK7S2ZdVcHVOYZxUxCQ== X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Archive-Number: 200806/309 X-Sequence-Number: 119422 Tom Lane wrote: > I grow weary of this thread. I will say it once more: I do not believe > for one instant that the current formatting of postgresql.conf is the > major impediment, or even a noticeable impediment, to producing a useful > configuration wizard. If you wish to prove otherwise, provide a > complete wizard except for the parts that touch the config file, and > I will promise to finish it. > > I will not read or respond to any further discussion of changing the > config file format. It's a waste of bandwidth. > Your statement doesn't really surprise me. Apparently you kind of celebrate misunderstanding my point, which isn't primarily about the file format, but about config param accessibility via api/SQL. I personally wouldn't even think about starting such a wizard, unless I have an idea how to push the result into the database. No, not a file, but via SQL! So your statement you won't react unless a wizard is almost ready is prohibitive, apart from the fact that not only wizards (featuring AI) are interesting, but simple config tools as well. Regards, Andrads