Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvBG-0000RS-LX for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:46:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvBF-0008I2-9Q for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:46:53 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvBE-0008Hu-TV; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:46:53 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQvB9-0006Uw-7j; Wed, 15 May 2019 14:46:51 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x4FEkd4b004860; Wed, 15 May 2019 10:46:39 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Andres Freund cc: pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org, David Fetter , Stephen Frost , PostgreSQL Development Subject: Re: New EXPLAIN option: ALL In-reply-to: <1A90C4C3-861A-4B2A-B263-702CC1AA6C8C@anarazel.de> References: <20190507163411.GM28936@fetter.org> <20190507164430.a7tig676hjzdnyyd@alap3.anarazel.de> <20190507212355.GQ28936@fetter.org> <20190507215449.3a4yb5kkoloq7yyw@alap3.anarazel.de> <4638.1557266803@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190507221255.GO6197@tamriel.snowman.net> <5221.1557267912@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190513055112.GA24409@fetter.org> <20190515060214.GZ28936@fetter.org> <30903.1557927151@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190515142033.GB28936@fetter.org> <1A90C4C3-861A-4B2A-B263-702CC1AA6C8C@anarazel.de> Comments: In-reply-to Andres Freund message dated "Wed, 15 May 2019 07:29:26 -0700" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4858.1557931599.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 10:46:39 -0400 Message-ID: <4859.1557931599@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Andres Freund writes: > On May 15, 2019 7:20:34 AM PDT, David Fetter wrote: >> Indeed. I think we should move our regression tests to TAP and >> dispense with this. > -inconceivably much Yeah, that's not happening. Just eyeing the patch again, it seems like most of the test-output churn is from a decision to make printing of planner options be on-by-default; which is also what creates the buildfarm-variant-options hazard. So I suggest reconsidering that. TBH, even without the regression test angle, I suspect that such a change would receive a lot of pushback. It's a pretty big delta in the verbosity of EXPLAIN, and it is frankly of no value to a lot of people a lot of the time. regards, tom lane