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Katz" To: Amit Kapila , Andres Freund Cc: Justin Pryzby , Alvaro Herrera , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org References: <20230317230930.nhsgk3qfk7f4axls@awork3.anarazel.de> <20230318093357.g4e3eexqg6dxmuel@alvherre.pgsql> <20230322170048.ffbnfr5o2jrjgb2f@awork3.anarazel.de> <20230411182010.zsldtjrxe5m2bqzp@awork3.anarazel.de> Subject: Re: Should we remove vacuum_defer_cleanup_age? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------9DqAqOdKG5VSeDPMKkiEk00Y" X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 52.119.84.106 (failed) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --------------9DqAqOdKG5VSeDPMKkiEk00Y Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------OMLMOa1N2OP0uYGE5qvUkuzE"; protected-headers="v1" From: "Jonathan S. 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