Received: from localhost (unknown [200.46.208.211]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A6B630BB1 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:30:38 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.211]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64615-10 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 07:30:23 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.9]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C1862F5D9 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:30:25 -0400 (AST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-96-244-14-10.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net [96.244.14.10]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MEtVS-1NFuZ30ISg-00FVDp; Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:30:24 +0100 Message-ID: <4B2C8123.1030409@2ndquadrant.com> Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2009 02:30:43 -0500 From: Greg Smith User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PostgreSQL-development Subject: Re: Closing out CommitFest 2009-11 References: <4B27C70F.1030603@2ndquadrant.com> <603c8f070912151012n60e8b963t69ef79577114d505@mail.gmail.com> <4B27E724.9000908@2ndquadrant.com> <4B2BD57A.2050505@2ndquadrant.com> In-Reply-To: <4B2BD57A.2050505@2ndquadrant.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/vvG+aEsqaG2trKSgG7rvQHZ1BensdYg3U3Pv luRSaC4tvNPcUh64hgO6vemm0lFpQrgpgptoddxQFZpcFhlP6/ xl0UcKNX2QoHaHGCD5Tv3U+RL9sxxnF X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.521 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 200912/1724 X-Sequence-Number: 152427 CommitFest 2009-11 is now closed, having committed 27 patches in 33 days. For comparison sake, 2009-09 committed 20 patches in 29 days, 2009-07 37 patches in 34 days, and 2008-09 29 patches in 30 days. The much bigger 2008-11 involved 58 patches going on for months, the bulk of it committed 28 patches in 36 days. Seems pretty consistent at this point: at the average patch contribution size seen over the last year, about one of those gets committed per day once we enter a CommitFest. I didn't bother accounting for things that were committed outside of the official dates, so it's actually a bit worse than that, but that gives a rough idea that's easy to remember. Also, just based on the last three CFs, 42% of patches are either returned with feedback or rejected (with quite a bit more CF to CF variation). The working estimation figure I'd suggest is that once a CF reaches 50 incoming patches it's unlikely that will finish in a month. CommitFest 2010-01, the last one for 8.5, begins on January 15th, 2010. I'll be out of commission with projects by then, so unless Robert wants to reprise his role as CF manager we may need to get someone else involved to do it. Between the CF application and how proactive everyone involved is at this point (almost all authors, reviewers, and committers do the bulk of the state changes and link to messages in the archives for you), the job of running things does keep getting easier. And the guidlines for how to be the CF manager are pretty nailed down now--you could just execute on a pretty mechanical plan and expect to make useful progress. It's still a lot of time though. I've never had an appreciation for exactly how many messages flow through this list like I do now, after a month of needing to read and pay attention to every single one of them. For those of you still furiously working on a patch with that deadline, if you have a large patch and it's not already been reviewed in a previous CommitFest, I wouldn't give you good odds of it being even looked at during that one. There doesn't seem to be any official warning of this where people will likely notice it, but this topic has been discussed on the list here. Large patches submitted just before the deadline for a release have not fared very well historically. Recognizing that, there's really no tolerance for chasing after them (at the expense of postponing the beta) left for this release. Just figured I'd pass along that warning before somebody discovers it the hard way, by working madly to finish their submission up only to see it get kicked to the next version anyway. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services and Support greg@2ndQuadrant.com www.2ndQuadrant.com