Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-2.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0221337B6E for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:04:28 -0400 (AST) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.251]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16305-07 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 14:04:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.123]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACAE1337B47 for ; Wed, 9 Feb 2011 10:04:19 -0400 (AST) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=pepdxKapwHuwCZNFD5uob2wvham6E+RljB0uXw08FdQ= c=1 sm=0 a=F5Dnq9f0t-QA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=qCTYjJJ2g1SgQhsHZAUATw==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=VVRI5o9MLVLDhWllIbIA:9 a=PT3FsOMqqePf9lItlddZLfRppv4A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=qCTYjJJ2g1SgQhsHZAUATw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.27.48.207 Received: from [98.27.48.207] ([98.27.48.207:50840] helo=[192.168.10.104]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 02/B4-19545-2EE925D4; Wed, 09 Feb 2011 14:04:19 +0000 Message-ID: <4D529EE2.2010600@dunslane.net> Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:04:18 -0500 From: Andrew Dunstan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101209 Fedora/3.1.7-0.35.b3pre.fc13 Lightning/1.0b3pre Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Eisentraut CC: Robert Haas , Tom Lane , Simon Riggs , Aidan Van Dyk , Heikki Linnakangas , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Sync Rep for 2011CF1 References: <1295127631.3282.100.camel@ebony> <4D397FE4.2020709@enterprisedb.com> <1295616270.1803.10799.camel@ebony> <4D39A761.1020105@enterprisedb.com> <1295629194.1803.11957.camel@ebony> <14761.1295633002@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1295703074.1803.19835.camel@ebony> <1297096419.1770.5824.camel@ebony> <21347.1297100595@sss.pgh.pa.us> <1297256000.8685.217.camel@fsopti579.F-Secure.com> In-Reply-To: <1297256000.8685.217.camel@fsopti579.F-Secure.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201102/725 X-Sequence-Number: 181514 On 02/09/2011 07:53 AM, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On mån, 2011-02-07 at 12:55 -0500, Robert Haas wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Robert Haas writes: >>>> ... Well, the current CommitFest ends in one week, ... >>> Really? I thought the idea for the last CF of a development cycle was >>> that it kept going till we'd dealt with everything. Arbitrarily >>> rejecting stuff we haven't dealt with doesn't seem fair. >> Uh, we did that with 8.4 and it was a disaster. The CommitFest lasted >> *five months*. We've been doing schedule-based CommitFests ever since >> and it's worked much better. > The previous three commit fests contained about 50 patches each and > lasted one month each. The current commit fest contains about 100 > patches, so it shouldn't be surprising that it will take about 2 months > to get through it. > > Moreover, under the current process, it is apparent that reviewing is > the bottleneck. More code gets written than gets reviewed. By > insisting on the current schedule, we would just push the growing review > backlog ahead of ourselves. The solution (at least short-term, while > maintaining the process) has to be to increase the resources (in > practice: time) dedicated to reviewing relative to coding. Personally I think it's not unreasonable to extend the final commitfest of the release some. It doesn't need to be a huge amount longer, certainly not five months, but a couple of weeks to a month might be fair. cheers andrew