Received: from maia.hub.org (maia-5.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75671B5DBDA for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:02:04 -0300 (ADT) Received: from mail.postgresql.org ([200.46.204.86]) by maia.hub.org (mx1.hub.org [200.46.204.29]) (amavisd-maia, port 10024) with ESMTP id 73026-07 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:01:57 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from smtp-1.01.com (smtp-1.01.com [38.102.63.180]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8341FB5DBE4 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 15:01:57 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-1.01.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D969E3E47 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp-1.01.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-1.01.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id v8IBHMg5uJAw for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:01:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: by smtp-1.01.com (Postfix, from userid 99) id 14EF8E19BA; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:01:55 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Sidney-Stratton.local (70-36-143-92.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [70.36.143.92]) by smtp-1.01.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ADDDFE340E for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2011 13:01:54 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4E0CBA11.2080402@agliodbs.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 11:01:53 -0700 From: Josh Berkus Organization: PostgreSQL Experts Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: time-delayed standbys References: <26007.1303309175@sss.pgh.pa.us> <27149.1303312506@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4E0CB47E.7070909@agliodbs.com> <4E0C714D020000250003ED89@gw.wicourts.gov> In-Reply-To: <4E0C714D020000250003ED89@gw.wicourts.gov> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Maia Mailguard 1.0.1 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.9 tagged_above=-5 required=5 tests=BAYES_00=-1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Archive-Number: 201106/2372 X-Sequence-Number: 191085 Kevin, > I think doing anything in PostgreSQL around this beyond allowing > DBAs to trust their server clocks is insane. The arguments for > using and trusting ntpd is pretty much identical to the arguments > for using and trusting the OS file systems. Oh, you don't want to implement our own NTP? Coward! ;-) -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com