Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E35019CDE14 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2011 19:25:51 -0400 (AST) Received: from [2001:1528:137::f1] (helo=mail.gransy.com) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RXhux-0004ZM-IC for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 05 Dec 2011 23:25:52 +0000 Received: from antispam.gransy.com (antispam.gransy.com [77.78.104.124]) by mail.gransy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5036A4A20A2 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.gransy.com ([82.208.29.194]) by antispam.gransy.com (antispam.gransy.com [77.78.104.124]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mkhhR7GrlNGW for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:25:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.237] (ip-78-45-133-255.net.upcbroadband.cz [78.45.133.255]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.gransy.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2931A4A207C for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 00:25:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EDD52F0.8000508@fuzzy.cz> Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 00:25:36 +0100 From: Tomas Vondra User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: why local_preload_libraries does require a separate directory ? References: <4EDA38AE.5030003@fuzzy.cz> <17337.1322934799@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4EDA6C0E.6090909@fuzzy.cz> <17796.1323033362@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4EDBEC84.2030809@fuzzy.cz> <19520.1323039961@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <19520.1323039961@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2001:1528:137::f1 (failed) X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201112/227 X-Sequence-Number: 199479 On 5.12.2011 00:06, Tom Lane wrote: > Tomas Vondra writes: >> On 4.12.2011 22:16, Tom Lane wrote: >>> Um ... why would you design it like that? > >> The backends are added to pg_stat_activity after the auth hook finishes, >> which means possible race conditions (backends executed at about the >> same time don't see each other in pg_stat_activity). So I use an >> exclusive lock that's acquired before reading pg_stat_activity and >> released after the pg_stat_activity is updated. >> That's the only thing the library loaded using local_preload_libraries >> does - it releases the lock. > > That's an unbelievably ugly, and dangerous, kluge. All you need is one > backend not loading the second library (and remember, > local_preload_libraries is user-settable) and you've just locked up the > system. > > Why are you using pg_stat_activity for this anyway? Searching the > ProcArray seems much safer ... see CountDBBackends for an example. Thanks, reading ProcArray works fine, although the ProcArrayStruct is private to procarray.c so I had to create a local copy. That sounds a bit too fragile I guess - whenever it changes, the extension will break without a warning. Tomas