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On 04/05/2012 04:27 PM, Simon Riggs wrote:
> It's shocking since after months of work and an especially extended
> edition CF, we expect people to deliver something, not just shunt the
> whole thing off as rejected with 1 days's notice to alter that
> outcome.

I don't think this is being fair to Robert.  You agreed with the hard 
deadline last week.  And the fact that the CF is late isn't a good 
reason to say it's OK for it to be more late.  Every patch that had been 
reviewed but still had problems has been on life support the entire 
month of March.  The surprising part isn't when one of them is finally 
returned, it's that they were still alive at all.

The theory here is supposed to be that large patches show up in the next 
to last CF, and by the time they hit the last one they're close to being 
ready.  Just since the beginning of March, Command Triggers picked up 
useful feedback from all three listed reviewers (plus other commentary 
and related committer work), going through six revisions.  There was 
still rippling impact like the CTAS/SELECT INTO utility command work 
going on six weeks into the CF.

The way Dimitri has been updating something this large so often makes me 
dizzy, and I think everyone is disappointed that we haven't seen any 
great subsets of this separate out to focus on.  But regardless of who's 
right or wrong about what's left to do, any objective look at this one 
would say it's surely not settled down.  And the bar at this point here 
in April isn't "is this an important feature?" anymore.  It should be 
"is this such an important feature that it's worth delaying the release 
and taking a risk on recently churning code for?"  Let's not kill the 
messenger who delivers that reminder just because the news is painful.

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Greg Smith   2ndQuadrant US    greg@2ndQuadrant.com   Baltimore, MD
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