Received: from magus.postgresql.org (magus.postgresql.org [87.238.57.229]) by mail.postgresql.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37188EC32B9 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:38:36 -0300 (ADT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SINyY-0003Nh-4f for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 17:38:35 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.6] (mail.highperformancepostgresql.com [71.179.240.8]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MOkKM-1SL7XC0wkA-0064Tm; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 19:38:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4F871307.5010109@2ndQuadrant.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 13:38:15 -0400 From: Greg Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111120 Icedove/3.1.16 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bruce Momjian CC: Peter Geoghegan , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: Last gasp References: <4F83FCB10200002500046D70@gw.wicourts.gov> <4F84D3A0.8010808@2ndQuadrant.com> <20120412124502.GA29487@momjian.us> <20120412153448.GA3379@momjian.us> In-Reply-To: <20120412153448.GA3379@momjian.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:t2Sbq23HoOKnXX3+9Y29whq70B8Pk6u49KZd8niuBXO lDf6RA3gAXytLTb1N4qZ1JK399nhMvo66IUhg4pBMKQo3gkU9U seYlFBqAZ3pEzloxWlY9m4GAnc2DJ8rq0qrbcn2Uwbn82nWLDo phL5gYkY0hrOcv3+NQEDEk+fwa9+E4k8vVw25ek4IiHcSn0/o7 b4c5YS1rKjDkkPboAKtffdY2ktLQQ3teMqsEE6DJZitLDvgWBj Adb9JnVG+CTWfUtThMXpmdZMEIimNEDMjSUscRvjmQnZfiKgwV GFY3ARCq2F6nu4IKRWEArQuHymmDjHnDjmegbKI+MVi8qWTHP6 ZXhAkB+DCtSZLCjqu5zY= X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) X-Archive-Number: 201204/655 X-Sequence-Number: 206458 On 04/12/2012 11:34 AM, Bruce Momjian wrote: > The specific suggestion that vendors are not taking contributors > seriously unless they have commit-bits is perhaps something that > requires education of vendors, or perhaps my blogging about this will > help. I'm glad I managed to vent my frustration in this area in a way that was helpful. Just recognize that any experienced person at pitching software solutions will tell you to never wander down this path at all. If you have to tell someone a story and make them admit they're wrong about something as an early step toward adoption, you've just dumped a home-made FUD bomb on them. It's not a high percentage path toward credibility. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com