agora inbox for [email protected]
help / color / mirror / Atom feedFrom: Jay Levitt <[email protected]>
To: Alex <[email protected]>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <[email protected]>
Cc: Robert Haas <[email protected]>
Cc: Tom Lane <[email protected]>
Cc: Greg Smith <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Last gasp
Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:53:45 -0400
Message-ID: <[email protected]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <CA+Tgmoa75QujxzCZC+dj=0+JayGPhJD2kQMDBmbGmmq_HPgHxw@mail.gmail.com>
<CA+TgmobrGWaatFbuMGJKL4J2AcJCaw3hF-37r8xmxHg7v98smw@mail.gmail.com>
<CAFNqd5V274gzVEAX7q=nwGn3eTsPa+B_E_WkQ8oPu1ZEYxa1eg@mail.gmail.com>
<[email protected]>
<CAEYLb_W3hOXQYGEA=aJCk-Y-7OFak4V7e3vT1y-XcMukGY3-tQ@mail.gmail.com>
<CA+TgmoY+p8BiRPgCQQdON_a4DQvy3Hx03ug-j2eL8=Za_88WFQ@mail.gmail.com>
<CAEYLb_VUiz57BeDy8d2gWQt_HRn9xpw83gt7MS0+wYmUopasrA@mail.gmail.com>
<CA+TgmoZLWG=napMA-Fx4u8PTGDkY2CMz84LXAACsvhKRL+D2vg@mail.gmail.com>
<[email protected]>
<CA+TgmoaN2wi85HVS-xuZkw9O6O_RmF4ovxX+=n6o2x6a1S2b-A@mail.gmail.com>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<CA+TgmoariJzLZ-9CfhF-Xwezk=UbmG_WUk5KydPYb8qFJzgkXw@mail.gmail.com>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
Alex wrote:
> Jay Levitt<[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Alex wrote:
>>> I didn't follow this whole thread, but have we considered Redmine[1]?
>> As the resident "Ruby is shiny, let's do everything in Rails on my
>> MacBook" guy, I'd like to make a statement against interest: I've
>> tried Redmine a few times and it's been painful. Much of the codebase
>> is deprecated, it's slow, it has no meaningful search (in 2012?!),
>> I've seen wiki edits disappear, and at the moment pulling up its own
>> FAQ page at redmine.org times out.
>
> Yay, that's totally FUD to me.
You're right, it was. My bad. Someday I will find the balance between
precision and concision.
> Could you please elaborate a bit on your points?
>
> Deprecated codebase? Let me guess...
>
> It runs on an outdated version of Rails (2.3) but only because Rails is
> changing so rapidly, I believe. There is work in progress[1] to move to
> the supported branch Rails-3.x.
I wasn't even thinking of that; I know many production systems still run on
Rails 2.3, and in fact it probably even performs better for some workloads.
3.x is a mixed bag. I don't hold that against Redmine.
But it's still FUD, because I can't remember where I saw this information.
So: withdrawn.
>
> Slow? Do you have any data to back this point up?
No measurable data; just a sigh of relief when switching from Redmine to
Github - and GitHub ain't a speed demon. In general, I've seen multi-second
page load times on crazy-simple things like wiki edits; this was on a hosted
provider (sourcerepo.com), but they also hosted our git repo and we had no
speed problems there.
> No meaningful search, eh? Works for me.
Redmine searches return partial-word matches, and there's no way to disable
that. Searching for "test" finds "latest". To me, that's broken.
Also, the UI is very 5 years ago; e.g., "compare revisions" uses the same
columns-of-radio-buttons approach as MediaWiki. If the goal is a tool to
reduce friction and increase involvement, you want a smoother UX.
Jay
view thread (225+ messages) latest in thread
reply
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Reply to all the recipients using the --to and --cc options:
reply via email
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: Last gasp
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
This inbox is served by agora; see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox