Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s7go7-006qyM-4d for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2024 19:30:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s7go5-00E0qH-Hq for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2024 19:30:25 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s7go5-00E0q9-5A for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2024 19:30:25 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1s7go2-000aVD-5i for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Thu, 16 May 2024 19:30:24 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F2430168DA for ; Thu, 16 May 2024 21:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s899.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089292E2AE99; Thu, 16 May 2024 21:30:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from s470.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.6]) by s899.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DC92C8BAC4; Thu, 16 May 2024 21:30:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: s470.loopia.se (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yesql.se Received: from s980.loopia.se ([172.22.191.5]) by s470.loopia.se (s470.loopia.se [172.22.190.34]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id tiEDjyruJ4J6; Thu, 16 May 2024 21:30:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 185.224.57.161 Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [185.224.57.161]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s980.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 475BE22016D6; Thu, 16 May 2024 21:30:21 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yesql.se; s=loopiadkim1707475645; t=1715887821; bh=lCiWZbLvZr5yL3a6ovuIrEDjn7tOoYXNdV7qj0pKhK0=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=H5g84gqnf4n4uYUibZ0tb2+ceWORxJIuG21jQfjaq3nrA+tdrtk6k+LGLdWJ9MoHA 9q4RkH89IyNwCsOualwtki0XqwyZlslzl1v9N5UFZZp0UCE6iSgD6y46KIyMgwwFkD G9tXrdDxiQ6aIj3QTKXCxgBFvf4fazV+O3FKNKHwCQNGeTwbkCOdh78Yd7J/7AdB7+ jsfua7gcqbrWr4T/JOaMWVsiYHA+YJTFlQVSIABlxSVySdhqDoBNCHivnGvU0w3g8R 9wpK0PhmVIThdhe4mZCcFWBx+/OhJGmUmHT88UpaQyfkBS1kV9eIJIVzqFk+k9yNgE 8RkAi1gGUT/QQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) Subject: Re: commitfest.postgresql.org is no longer fit for purpose From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 21:30:10 +0200 Cc: PostgreSQL Hackers Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <50435844-54E0-4100-AE23-C72FF4134F92@yesql.se> References: To: Robert Haas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 16 May 2024, at 20:30, Robert Haas wrote: > The original intent of CommitFests, and of commitfest.postgresql.org > by extension, was to provide a place where patches could be registered > to indicate that they needed to be reviewed, thus enabling patch > authors and patch reviewers to find each other in a reasonably > efficient way. I don't think it's working any more. But which part is broken though, the app, our commitfest process and = workflow and the its intent, or our assumption that we follow said process and = workflow which may or may not be backed by evidence? IMHO, from being CMF many = times, there is a fair bit of the latter, which excacerbates the problem. This = is harder to fix with more or better software though.=20 > I spent a good deal of time going through the CommitFest this week And you deserve a big Thank You for that. -- Daniel Gustafsson