Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rl4dV-00HSlb-R4 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:18:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rl4dU-007m1r-1g for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:18:00 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rl4dT-007m1j-Ov for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:18:00 +0000 Received: from smtp.outgoing.loopia.se ([93.188.3.37]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rl4dP-004ctT-Om for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 10:17:58 +0000 Received: from s807.loopia.se (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE4130036CD for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:17:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from s980.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s807.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA292E28B56; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:17:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from s472.loopia.se (unknown [172.22.191.5]) by s980.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id A931022016D8; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:17:54 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amavis.loopia.se X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.21 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.21 tagged_above=-999 required=6.2 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: s472.loopia.se (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yesql.se Received: from s980.loopia.se ([172.22.191.6]) by s472.loopia.se (s472.loopia.se [172.22.190.12]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id gtR2pZRU6hIJ; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:17:54 +0100 (CET) X-Loopia-Auth: user X-Loopia-User: daniel@yesql.se X-Loopia-Originating-IP: 89.255.232.193 Received: from smtpclient.apple (customer-89-255-232-193.stosn.net [89.255.232.193]) (Authenticated sender: daniel@yesql.se) by s980.loopia.se (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0C0162201683; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:17:54 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yesql.se; s=loopiadkim1707475645; t=1710497874; bh=aEzBL+VwLAb+5CGbfNUDQffMjTqN+ZafRiz5e7C7xyc=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=SQp2TVoGqjHx3sPTwnDmFC+OvwCGEhUZDwYpsPa3whsWSVqHKYlEUJiJyOWoHMxON l76Z6DBXC0LzasXexdoexBJFAwvJgITzGGO8ATOpq08RM3SwCIEYTjw6PYdBSdzWV4 9x2gvhK5EMhrIlBg/hMhdpgWF7kniOGKuH+OWCKWyRcoVZsxsq8SOocfvyt5TGEgew ejSlVGIpQuaruccyW91ghxEMnTZaBmdG+KSSI/jUYXBWahTqzfxfbCcckYSjdG6uwv arY8MEDIVXfURGR05VtgqEkJnrVEnu++Be5tAXnUSPqdawiKa18jYuLKSR8DLCT3Yn 9FAnWYqSC93uw== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.4\)) Subject: Re: Reports on obsolete Postgres versions From: Daniel Gustafsson In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 11:17:53 +0100 Cc: Bruce Momjian , Jeremy Schneider , Michael Banck , Nathan Bossart , PostgreSQL Hackers Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <51BBF5BC-12F0-4BDC-A567-8B87A955C13B@yesql.se> References: <20240311211204.GA1786481@nathanxps13> <65f02a88.170a0220.805a4.01ff@mx.google.com> To: Peter Eisentraut X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.4) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk > On 14 Mar 2024, at 16:48, Peter Eisentraut = wrote: > On 13.03.24 18:12, Bruce Momjian wrote: >> I think "minor" is a better term since it contrasts with "major". We >> don't actually supply patches to upgrade minor versions. >=20 > There are potentially different adjectives that could apply to = "version" and "release". >=20 > The version numbers can be called major and minor, because that just = describes their ordering and significance. >=20 > But I do agree that "minor release" isn't quite as clear, because one = could also interpret that as "a release, but a bit smaller this time". = (Also might not translate well, since "minor" and "small" could = translate to the same thing.) Some of the user confusion likely stems from us using the same = nomenclature as SemVer, but for different things. SemVer has become very widely = adopted, to the point where it's almost assumed by many, so maybe we need to = explicitly state that we *don't* use SemVer (we don't mention that anywhere in the = docs or on the website). > One could instead, for example, describe those as "maintenance = releases": That might indeed be a better name for what we provide. -- Daniel Gustafsson