Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UzPNZ-0007hO-4f for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:54:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UzPNY-0004R7-Jp for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:54:40 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:7903:4::125]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UzPNX-0004Pn-7C for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:54:39 +0000 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.8]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UzPNV-0007nJ-3i for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:54:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.110] (mail.highperformancepostgresql.com [71.179.240.8]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LdyJ6-1UN05N1gTM-00prt1; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:54:34 +0200 Message-ID: <51E677E7.6070803@2ndQuadrant.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:54:31 -0400 From: Greg Smith User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ants Aasma CC: Heikki Linnakangas , PostgreSQL-development , KONDO Mitsumasa Subject: Re: Improvement of checkpoint IO scheduler for stable transaction responses References: <51B5AFB1.5030404@lab.ntt.co.jp> <51BDCB6C.1090507@vmware.com> <51E2F1C4.6010503@2ndQuadrant.com> <51E58E35.4070500@2ndQuadrant.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:0NcvOEAK6pGDuvdqbDkIOP1FCHjk5cJtbJjfezHxMzm nECm5tXoSfTyGTxI7iSdBZKs0jg3xYtmp2CYhCk7n6srPEPKou GAPpuQcd318mkVPwjNdNp8DcCtzbo7b8wdcb8NE7LOUxlISubh GiKBGrW+okb8e4MnSHeW70ZiNr4wo+O33rdCEFfvP4k7EiqM9X VQJ/e17tgU+LuBGrWIlPZYx8BXo5ZeaGVqYTv+HGcPf4ZRp0DP YqqxYlcXAvjX5UWpDm7WDQez7eVf0WBjSJrsv70zhjvEAAarM0 MYluK2r4tEe2IPf3f3oie7hz15vv1pcxHgoqF64+bKEjX6iVZI 5LKUaJGeljcIwHfZbvA0= X-Pg-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 7/16/13 11:36 PM, Ants Aasma wrote: > As you know running a full suite of write benchmarks takes a very long > time, with results often being inconclusive (noise is greater than > effect we are trying to measure). I didn't say that. What I said is that over a full suite of write benchmarks, the effect of changes like this has always averaged out to zero. You should try it sometime. Then we can have a useful discussion of non-trivial results instead of you continuing to tell me I don't understand things. -- Greg Smith 2ndQuadrant US greg@2ndQuadrant.com Baltimore, MD PostgreSQL Training, Services, and 24x7 Support www.2ndQuadrant.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers