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To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>,
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On 2026-06-18 Th 6:26 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Jacob Champion <jacob.champion@enterprisedb.com> writes:
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2026 at 2:22 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>>> so it kind of doesn't
>>> matter today whether we set N to 2 or 3.
>> I think it still matters for impending decisions. For example, we're
>> about to engineer how to backport a sliding window of Python across
>> the sliding window of backbranch support. Shorter windows tie our
>> hands less.
> I dunno.  One of the points of the allegedly-agreed-to policy
> framework was
>
>>>> 2) We don't remove support for OS versions in minor releases
> A strict reading of that is that a released branch can't increase
> its minimum required Python version.
>
> Now maybe we can finesse that, like "you can build PL/Python and
> associated contrib modules with Python >= X, but if you want to
> run these optional tests, they require Python >= Y".  Not sure
> how comfortable I am with that.  I definitely don't want to get
> into a situation where we require buildfarm owners to have
> Python >= Y installed, because then we will not have any testing
> that proves we didn't break the other part.  (So we'd need a
> runtime check to skip these tests on too-old Python.)
>
> In any case, if we do make such a decision, most likely we'd
> use the same value of Y for all the active back branches.
> So I think the value of N in the support policy really
> only matters for future version-cutoff decisions.
>
> 			


Buildfarm owners are going to have to opt in to pytest, in the same way 
that today they have to opt in to TAP tests, and in the same way there 
will be up front tests to check that what's installed meets the 
requirements. We could stick with X = 3.6 and make Y = 3.8.


cheers


andrew


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