Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUFS1-0007Gj-Bq for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 14:11:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUFRz-00061z-W9 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 14:11:32 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUFRx-00061k-K6 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 14:11:29 +0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YUFRu-0003LV-5w for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 14:11:27 +0000 Received: from auth1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.227]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Mhej1-1Y7VXM2yQd-00Ms3M for ; Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:11:23 +0100 Received: from compute3.internal (compute3.nyi.internal [10.202.2.43]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED65721168 for ; Sat, 7 Mar 2015 09:11:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute3.internal (MEProxy); Sat, 07 Mar 2015 09:11:21 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: Eo7QmbPlhzaOwMi9SKbN3lBeyJAPHgSl/16a2m85uSEF 1425737481 Received: from [10.0.0.13] (unknown [67.165.24.246]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EC79CC002A2; Sat, 7 Mar 2015 09:11:20 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <54FB0708.7070200@gmx.net> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2015 09:11:20 -0500 From: Peter Eisentraut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Lane CC: Adam Brightwell , Noah Misch , Stephen Frost , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: CATUPDATE confusion? References: <20141227080926.GA2035611@tornado.leadboat.com> <20141227151034.GU3062@tamriel.snowman.net> <28382.1419703324@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20141227231829.GX3062@tamriel.snowman.net> <1952.1419722762@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20141227233150.GA2046947@tornado.leadboat.com> <54FA8203.8080709@gmx.net> <4593.1425706263@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: <4593.1425706263@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7PqeygqQrU/HPPBS36KQ+HCBS61JXpFKWvQmZWXpubfs8xY9Dv0 bCMotJQznT2TbiibQyuyxR/tYQnETGysW36CVoy88qKGEc4/rNZtctay2ev0mr8E8mgNy5H eIDX8ZSig25Get7JuiEDFiFZ0FcecF7bJXYEDslUiqzVJA0JikScJbliyAVwbH0tqEIPSxd hcBHsX4YNl50MZJH/kjcw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 3/7/15 12:31 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Peter Eisentraut writes: >> On 12/29/14 7:16 PM, Adam Brightwell wrote: >>> Given this discussion, I have attached a patch that removes CATUPDATE >>> for review/discussion. > >> committed this version > > Hmm .. I'm not sure that summarily removing usecatupd from those three > system views was well thought out. pg_shadow, especially, has no reason > to live at all except for backwards compatibility, and clients might well > expect that column to still be there. I wonder if we'd not be better off > to keep the column in the views but have it read from rolsuper. I doubt anyone is reading the column. And if they are, they should stop. pg_shadow and pg_user have been kept around because it is plausible that a lot of tools want to have a list of users, and requiring all of them to change to pg_authid at once was deemed too onerous at the time. I don't think this requires us to keep all the details the same forever. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers