Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV0vp-0005m3-EU for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:53:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV0vo-0003yJ-RY for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:53:28 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV0vk-0003od-1c for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:53:24 +0000 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com ([69.168.55.30]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YV0vc-0002sF-AK for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Mon, 09 Mar 2015 16:53:20 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (spinlock.commandprompt.com [69.168.55.30]) by lists.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5B0982D9; Mon, 9 Mar 2015 09:53:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([67.168.169.165] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by assp.commandprompt.com with ESMTPS(AES128-SHA) (2.1.1); 9 Mar 2015 09:53:14 -0700 Message-ID: <54FDCFFA.1050607@commandprompt.com> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2015 09:53:14 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Haas CC: Tom Lane , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: Rethinking the parameter access hooks for plpgsql's benefit References: <4146.1425872254@sss.pgh.pa.us> <54FDC99C.5040100@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Assp-Version: 2.1.1(11364) on assp.commandprompt.com X-Assp-Client-SSL: yes X-Assp-ID: assp.commandprompt.com m1-19994-10555 X-Assp-Envelope-From: jd@commandprompt.com X-Assp-Intended-For: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org X-Assp-Original-Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Rethinking the parameter access hooks for plpgsql'sbenefit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 03/09/2015 09:29 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Joshua D. Drake wrote: >> From the reading the original post it seems like the patch was developed on >> Sales Force's time, not TGLs. I do not think we get to have an opinion on >> that. > > Salesforce gets to develop their patches whenever they want, but they > don't get to control the community process for getting those patches > committed to PostgreSQL. Did I miss the part of the post that said, (speaking as Tom): FYI, I am ignoring the commit fest deadline and committing this? Are we supposed to hold patches when we are post-deadline and not seek feedback? That seems rather hostile. > >> Thank you Tom for the efforts you made here, making the largest used PL >> better, faster, stronger is exactly the type of micro-changes we need to be >> looking at for further polish within the database. > > So, just to be clear, are you proposing that everybody is exempted > from the CommitFest deadlines, or just Tom? I am not suggesting that anyone is exempted from a CommitFest deadline. I am actually rather hard line that we should be keeping them. I think it is ridiculous to post on the bad/good/timing of a patch submission unless there is a case being made that the process isn't actually being followed. I don't see that here. In short, soap boxing does nobody any good. JD -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ 503-667-4564 PostgreSQL Support, Training, Professional Services and Development High Availability, Oracle Conversion, @cmdpromptinc Now I get it: your service is designed for a customer base that grew up with Facebook, watches Japanese seizure robot anime, and has the attention span of a gnat. I'm not that user., "Tyler Riddle" -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers