Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0spd-00042k-Lq for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 14:42:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0spd-0000hP-1O for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 14:42:49 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0spa-0000hG-PT for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 14:42:46 +0000 Received: from lists.commandprompt.com ([69.168.55.30]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0spR-0003tA-NO for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 14:42:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (spinlock.commandprompt.com [69.168.55.30]) by lists.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 45ACD2B5; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 07:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([67.168.169.165] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by assp.commandprompt.com with ESMTPS(AES128-SHA) (2.1.1); 5 Jun 2015 07:42:34 -0700 Message-ID: <5571B55C.7050009@commandprompt.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 07:42:36 -0700 From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Haas CC: Stephen Frost , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: RFC: Remove contrib entirely References: <55674016.80005@commandprompt.com> <20150528193556.GH26667@tamriel.snowman.net> <5567C5EB.3070703@gmx.net> <5567CB9E.1030502@commandprompt.com> <20150529031004.GU26667@tamriel.snowman.net> <5567DDBA.8020403@commandprompt.com> <55686D84.4040202@commandprompt.com> <20150529143026.GV26667@tamriel.snowman.net> <5570739E.3020605@commandprompt.com> <55709181.1010807@commandprompt.com> <55709A0B.1000605@commandprompt.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Assp-Version: 2.1.1(11364) on assp.commandprompt.com X-Assp-Client-SSL: yes X-Assp-ID: assp.commandprompt.com m1-15355-04246 X-Assp-Envelope-From: jd@commandprompt.com X-Assp-Intended-For: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org X-Assp-Original-Subject: Re: [HACKERS] RFC: Remove contrib entirely X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 06/05/2015 04:56 AM, Robert Haas wrote: somewhere else. At least not that I can see. > >> 4. Eliminate the EGO of saying "I have a contrib module in core" > > I've got multiple major features in core. Any ego I may have about my > PostgreSQL contributions is not based on pg_prewarm. This was worded badly by me. This isn't about your ego, it is about the mysticism surrounding the idea that "they have a feature in core". It is really last on the list and not really important to this discussion. > >> 1. 15 years of the same argument (current source: pg_audit) > > The argument about pg_audit has little to do with contrib. It is > primarily about code quality, and secondarily about whether one > committer can go do something unliterally when a long list of other > committers and contributors have expressed doubts about it. > The argument was about whether it should be in contrib, code quality or not. If contrib didn't exist and we accepted that extensions are an outside core thing, the argument never would have happened. JD -- Command Prompt, Inc. - http://www.commandprompt.com/ 503-667-4564 PostgreSQL Centered full stack support, consulting and development. Announcing "I'm offended" is basically telling the world you can't control your own emotions, so everyone else should do it for you. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers