Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0wZS-0005FO-9l for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 18:42:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0wZQ-0004Kx-DF for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 18:42:20 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0wX4-00010y-7r; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 18:39:54 +0000 Received: from 01.zmailcloud.com ([192.198.85.104] helo=mx-out-1.zmailcloud.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0wX0-0007HC-90; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 18:39:51 +0000 Received: from smtp.01.com (smtp.01.com [10.10.0.43]) by mx-out-1.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF74F564553; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:39:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out-2.01.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B6760082; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:39:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp-out-2.01.com Received: from smtp.01.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out-2.01.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 81Jvjprkh6cu; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:39:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from smtp.01.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out-2.01.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C5860281; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:39:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-out-2.01.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980836027D; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:39:49 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp-out-2.01.com Received: from smtp.01.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-out-2.01.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 9SN9mIlNldku; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:39:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (c75-111-67-81.erkacmtk01.ca.dh.suddenlink.net [75.111.67.81]) by smtp-out-2.01.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5397C60082; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:39:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5571ECF3.9000605@agliodbs.com> Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 11:39:47 -0700 From: Josh Berkus Organization: PostgreSQL Experts Inc. User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Lane , Robert Haas CC: Simon Riggs , Noah Misch , Bruce Momjian , Andres Freund , Stephen Frost , Magnus Hagander , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" , pgsql-core Subject: Re: [CORE] Restore-reliability mode References: <28477.1432931820@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20150529223321.GB6535@alap3.anarazel.de> <12510.1432958887@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20150530154559.GA25053@momjian.us> <20150530204727.GJ13944@alap3.anarazel.de> <20150531024845.GB13697@momjian.us> <20150603135049.GA74753@tornado.leadboat.com> <556F3798.6010707@agliodbs.com> <26673.1433514236@sss.pgh.pa.us> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 06/05/2015 07:23 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > So let's call it an alpha, or some other way of setting expectations > appropriately. But I think it's silly to maintain that the code is not in > a state where end-user testing is useful. They just have to understand > that they can't trust it with production data. Yes ... that seems like a good compromise. Frankly, I'm testing 9.5 already; having alpha packages would make that testing easier for me, and maybe possible for others. We'd need to take into account that our packagers are a bit overworked this month due to update releases ... -- Josh Berkus PostgreSQL Experts Inc. http://pgexperts.com -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers