Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPEP1-0000IO-NV for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:35:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPEP1-0003o6-9Q for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:35:59 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPEP0-0003mp-Nm for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:35:58 +0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1ZPEOx-0000Jt-Oq for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:35:58 +0000 Received: from auth2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.228]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LkgAG-1YrH5x0Zzo-00aSQs for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:35:53 +0200 Received: from compute6.internal (compute6.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A6A4220DD for ; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:35:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute6.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:35:50 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: s237oUgWhtrY+oSvlxIXNFjw2o1WgukXuzb7yUJOMt0N 1439318149 Received: from [192.168.1.146] (unknown [204.145.120.11]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CFBBBC00021; Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:35:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <55CA4085.30101@gmx.net> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 14:35:49 -0400 From: Peter Eisentraut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Haas , Josh Berkus CC: Heikki Linnakangas , Michael Paquier , pgsql-hackers Subject: Re: WIP: SCRAM authentication References: <55192AFE.6080106@iki.fi> <55C4FCC2.3000503@iki.fi> <55C63B1E.2040101@iki.fi> <55C79F0A.90601@agliodbs.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jnKyILdfbAddU4XC6gveQ+wqwbqnCdJ58y4ST4mIZQes8/oCO3K k0lJI2t6XVzXp9sOg3jIgFmbaun9WXCTUQaehvrdIKyEbIxzxVFhnMIOfoIw9rghTCyYnhy QqGbnkzw/FXHHfia7pUWRG+xHK3G/Twqzv6fyDOH4nf84AZ7/vAHT3GePpPA8xhkSzdcURR W2e4KBeC21LQGCg9Im8rA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:QN9mF41DJ4k=:zOAWI7u45muJnWf4CAjPdh XCmXx6skMAGMplYFlSUsBtqFws7arzSLtX5Ynl0sVrS+qK87MRTsalyHDNEhNrJMwHTTsC+hk lS+b25jU9r4nn21j+GpspyXILDn3gRnBGr9JqAQ5u4b720fJJIogPwbg9QihJ1WOYjNdBaXVB +Joe7TbhF1D4A2ln574GPcqCuaU06ZOFKlCUvGgONL+i9DkGXHNmWky6bmZmMUK2Qr4IcusY9 +hqbxrayKTbgt7g/rqZoNf0PNP2Owg/eG6iRF7fZVhSFJ/wo4rqoZvoe6dIp62AGNF6nWyktP TR8a5OlRj8yJFipZT63E20MUoz6F69BNV13biKm+SFBG1XuAURGCJ4h/crQ7KGFnPp1vkoQrD 6iFR3ZSJr11SGLuG1fstOklVpSJx6QwVhY5Ad8d+dwccmed2yF/RqUTQvbcXWacPnxj9aw+vx yZnGA8r8Mod0tr2M1CXtGUJmafQJsV7sv30QtEPIAAmtrc7EpRddHJg9p3/reNZqcecrQcExq bKBKJrScGcQArHg6FCLcMTb5dy+Fw65hVEdkTbIrWtXTsAFYVrCRScTIDaP0Hl4XlDgE221kO OyWvh/foTe/SQaHbWB5PqQYXuGBVLCHvIn70ga1YOlXfpXlWbemeLhvBZD5eo0ahZJxQAQ6uf UxCjoRDYajiZVIA3wJLe8G9tbalNY0jjMVsuFXzVb3XGg7VfoGSDGzWFX9u2ncLrs2S1PN5jw xv/DZo3JVyb4y19YVBg8Qq4MSdzRkGv5YDa4xw== X-Pg-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 8/11/15 10:28 AM, Robert Haas wrote: > Right. So what? First, you upgrade all of the clients one by one to > a new version of the connector that supports SCRAM. In my experience, upgrading clients is, in many settings, significantly harder than upgrading servers. So I think any plan to starts like the above isn't going to work. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers