Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nPK-00048O-8L for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:24:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nPJ-0007AR-RF for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:24:45 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nNx-0005MJ-Fn for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:23:21 +0000 Received: from zmcc-5-mx.zmailcloud.com ([192.198.93.228]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nNu-0001EJ-Ei for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:23:20 +0000 Received: from zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (127.37.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com [104.197.37.127]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zmcc-5-mx.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FA1F520503; Tue, 31 May 2016 13:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C23C1F34; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id 8chF-oBltH11; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6605CC205B; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:23:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com Received: from zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id CABxeDtuz8fF; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:23:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (c-98-246-109-153.hsd1.or.comcast.net [98.246.109.153]) by zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 89A45C1F34; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Rename max_parallel_degree? To: Peter Geoghegan References: <20160426152217.GA548975@alvherre.pgsql> <20160529053300.GD496776@tornado.leadboat.com> <574DBEA4.9000205@agliodbs.com> <8716.1464714201@sss.pgh.pa.us> <574DC585.7010507@agliodbs.com> Cc: Tom Lane , Robert Haas , Noah Misch , David Rowley , Amit Kapila , Alvaro Herrera , Magnus Hagander , Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development From: Josh berkus Message-ID: <574DC881.5010006@agliodbs.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:23:13 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 05/31/2016 10:16 AM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Josh berkus wrote: >> "max_parallel_degree is the amount of parallelism in the query, with the >> understanding that the original parent process counts as 1, which means >> that if you set it to 1 you get no parallelism, and if you want 4 >> parallel workers you need to set it to 5." >> >> Which one of those is going to require more explanations on -general and >> -novice? Bets? >> >> Let's not be complicated for the sake of being complicated. > > But the distinction between parallel workers and backends that can > participate in parallel query does need to be user-visible. Worker > processes are a commodity (i.e. the user must consider > max_worker_processes). It's still WAY simpler to understand "max_parallel is the number of parallel workers I requested". Any system where you set it to 2 and get only 1 worker on an idle system is going to cause endless queries on the mailing lists. -- -- Josh Berkus Red Hat OSAS (any opinions are my own) -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers