Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7ngg-0005ZW-S3 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:42:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7ngg-0007Op-Ah for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:42:42 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nfJ-0005rT-Ro for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:41:18 +0000 Received: from www.commandprompt.com ([2604:da00:2:2:5054:ff:fe07:7618] helo=lists.commandprompt.com) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nfF-0003KI-TM for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:41:15 +0000 Received: from [172.30.2.37] (spinlock.commandprompt.com [69.168.55.30]) by lists.commandprompt.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 58CCC54F; Tue, 31 May 2016 10:41:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from block-208.123.207.82.montanasat.net ([208.123.207.82] helo=[172.30.2.37]) by assp.commandprompt.com with SMTPSA(TLSv1_2 ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256) (2.4.5); 31 May 2016 10:41:10 -0700 Subject: Re: Rename max_parallel_degree? To: Tom Lane , Josh berkus References: <20160426152217.GA548975@alvherre.pgsql> <20160529053300.GD496776@tornado.leadboat.com> <574DBEA4.9000205@agliodbs.com> <8716.1464714201@sss.pgh.pa.us> <574DC585.7010507@agliodbs.com> <574DC881.5010006@agliodbs.com> <9816.1464715836@sss.pgh.pa.us> Cc: Peter Geoghegan , Robert Haas , Noah Misch , David Rowley , Amit Kapila , Alvaro Herrera , Magnus Hagander , Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development From: "Joshua D. Drake" Organization: Command Prompt, Inc. Message-ID: <574DCCB4.8060907@commandprompt.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:41:08 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9816.1464715836@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Assp-Version: 2.4.5(15162) on assp.commandprompt.com X-Assp-ID: assp.commandprompt.com m1-16471-00612 X-Assp-Session: 7F2533412B38 (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: jd@commandprompt.com X-Assp-Intended-For: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org X-Assp-Intended-For: bruce@momjian.us X-Assp-Intended-For: magnus@hagander.net X-Assp-Intended-For: alvherre@2ndquadrant.com X-Assp-Intended-For: amit.kapila16@gmail.com X-Assp-Intended-For: david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com X-Assp-Intended-For: noah@leadboat.com X-Assp-Intended-For: robertmhaas@gmail.com X-Assp-Intended-For: pg@heroku.com X-Assp-Intended-For: josh@agliodbs.com X-Assp-Intended-For: tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us X-Assp-Original-Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Rename max_parallel_degree? X-Assp-Client-SSL: yes X-Pg-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 05/31/2016 10:30 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Josh berkus writes: >> On 05/31/2016 10:16 AM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: >>> But the distinction between parallel workers and backends that can >>> participate in parallel query does need to be user-visible. Worker >>> processes are a commodity (i.e. the user must consider >>> max_worker_processes). > >> It's still WAY simpler to understand "max_parallel is the number of >> parallel workers I requested". > >> Any system where you set it to 2 and get only 1 worker on an idle system >> is going to cause endless queries on the mailing lists. > > I really think that a GUC named "max_parallel_workers", which in fact > limits the number of workers and not something else, is the way to go. > I agree with Tom here. If we are being pedantic for the sake of being pedantic we are just causing frustration. The term max_parallel_workers is simple, easy to understand and accurate enough. Sincerely, JD -- Command Prompt, Inc. http://the.postgres.company/ +1-503-667-4564 PostgreSQL Centered full stack support, consulting and development. Everyone appreciates your honesty, until you are honest with them. -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers