Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nkb-0005wC-Oh for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with smtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nkb-0007Y0-7t for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:45 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:1501:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nkZ-0007X3-Po for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:43 +0000 Received: from zmcc-5-mx.zmailcloud.com ([192.198.93.228]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b7nkX-0003Wo-6n for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:42 +0000 Received: from zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (127.37.197.104.bc.googleusercontent.com [104.197.37.127]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zmcc-5-mx.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F117952024E; Tue, 31 May 2016 13:46:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C32BC1E24; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id e0UeQ4due0Rq; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0832C21A4; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com Received: from zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id HJAcYFNZ96Z2; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (c-98-246-109-153.hsd1.or.comcast.net [98.246.109.153]) by zmcc-5-mta-1.zmailcloud.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F3AFEC1E24; Tue, 31 May 2016 17:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Rename max_parallel_degree? To: Peter Geoghegan References: <20160426152217.GA548975@alvherre.pgsql> <20160529053300.GD496776@tornado.leadboat.com> <574DBEA4.9000205@agliodbs.com> <8716.1464714201@sss.pgh.pa.us> <574DC585.7010507@agliodbs.com> <574DC881.5010006@agliodbs.com> Cc: Tom Lane , Robert Haas , Noah Misch , David Rowley , Amit Kapila , Alvaro Herrera , Magnus Hagander , Bruce Momjian , PostgreSQL-development From: Josh berkus Message-ID: <574DCDFC.6060506@agliodbs.com> Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:46:36 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pg-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-Archive: List-Help: List-ID: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Mailing-List: pgsql-hackers Precedence: bulk Sender: pgsql-hackers-owner@postgresql.org On 05/31/2016 10:38 AM, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Josh berkus wrote: >> It's still WAY simpler to understand "max_parallel is the number of >> parallel workers I requested". > > (Sorry Josh, somehow hit reply, not reply-all) > > Yes, it is. But as long as parallel workers are not really that > distinct to the leader-as-worker when executing a parallel query, then > you have another consideration. Which is that you need to care about > how many cores your query uses first and foremost, and not the number > of parallel workers used. I don't think that having only one worker > will cause too much confusion, because users will trust that we won't > allow something that simply makes no sense to happen. > > In my parallel create index patch, the leader participates as a worker > to scan and sort runs. It's identical to a worker, practically > speaking, at least until time comes to merge those runs. Similarly, > parallel aggregate does not really have much for the leader process to > do other than act as a worker. In parallel seq scan and join, do the "masters" behave as workers as well? -- -- Josh Berkus Red Hat OSAS (any opinions are my own) -- Sent via pgsql-hackers mailing list (pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org) To make changes to your subscription: http://www.postgresql.org/mailpref/pgsql-hackers