Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLHe-0008Mj-AB for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 03:08:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLHd-0006EP-5I for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 03:08:41 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLHc-0006EI-K1 for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 03:08:40 +0000 Received: from anastigmatix.net ([68.171.219.55]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLHa-0002Yv-G0 for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 12 May 2020 03:08:39 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=anastigmatix.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:Cc:References:To:Subject:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5ezPJDd5n6ar25BBAg0VPoQQ+XKFBtNbZlSDtO1wTXA=; b=lWiak3vsSRB0ZntokXqvutRRen YT2gzeaSF58/n62WhP1JTmeFKMmTop7qouur99SMYXyUARR7L6DvUD+Cjwai0P/Ij8PWgBdUbBoxv DV3uEogRxFtrIGUDbAYk42p/3nte4QnhaqkhO9I0n+2uraZlqeKt+VPTJXFiVOWe6gkSL7WrfEsvb 6ExbiCL+dfFP6Je+kp3cAtsMZc5MWUHzDE2srHuY4h7yRCgcB4hJdBQ9EwJJTcFD35o7FQQ7GvjFM iyG1w6XW3fjAOALxbCsFc8CDvzyGqNqf9lQbhmqfce0BRlGRbw7g8Sd+SdqphSmSnzVXFFXnxY+8r 5JnpAzxg==; Received: from [184.19.31.139] (port=49337) by bay.acenet.us with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1jYLHY-00F1nL-85; Mon, 11 May 2020 23:08:37 -0400 Subject: Re: PG 13 release notes, first draft To: Bruce Momjian , Tom Lane References: <20200505031600.GB21752@momjian.us> <20200505143118.GH21752@momjian.us> <5EB317A8.1020907@anastigmatix.net> <20200507134657.GK3649@momjian.us> <5EB44EBA.3040206@anastigmatix.net> <20200511230044.GB4666@momjian.us> <10922.1589249243@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20200512024816.GW4666@momjian.us> Cc: John Naylor , PostgreSQL-development From: Chapman Flack Message-ID: <5EBA1333.1080706@anastigmatix.net> Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 23:08:35 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200512024816.GW4666@momjian.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-95.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - bay.acenet.us X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - postgresql.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - anastigmatix.net X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: bay.acenet.us: authenticated_id: chap@anastigmatix.net X-Authenticated-Sender: bay.acenet.us: chap@anastigmatix.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-From-Rewrite: unmodified, already matched List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 05/11/20 22:48, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:07:23PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Bruce Momjian writes: >>> Allow Unicode escapes, e.g., E'\u####', U&'\####', to represent any >>> character available in the database encoding, even when the database >>> encoding is not UTF-8 (Tom Lane) >> >> How about "to be used for" instead of "to represent"? "Represent" kind >> of sounds like we're using these on output, which we aren't. > > Uh, I think "used for" is worse though, since we are not using it. I > don't get the "output" feel of the word at all. 'specify' ? -Chap