Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rpQvt-006hVL-D6 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2024 10:55:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rpQvr-00DIpH-Ds for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2024 10:54:59 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rpQvr-00DIp9-3s for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2024 10:54:59 +0000 Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::52a]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1rpQvn-006gmR-Dl for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2024 10:54:57 +0000 Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-56c404da0ebso517740a12.0 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2024 03:54:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1711536895; x=1712141695; darn=postgresql.org; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :subject:cc:to:from:date:sender:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=xU/0fUHYsH9bADgWReVo+eSSuH9cOgf5YGSzM4YOkBg=; b=lnVDNgADUpSwp8VRHO+jgKPKjjQ+Eqn5kCABkDg9IbLxL3R5FO7V6tBpGeE+dsA38k lIzwvVKjQdzl+ecLx6PhCEr6Kw7YbMz7krErp7YOFkwjRkxFxiVyuLJoD6IXdnVQyXa9 efwROmm92ekU0L1+C/CDW4UoaLY+fl3uu5YdxsDhfk2XiLVHlZyB63Nvitsd/mR68JR8 bI3iJ+6SuYNX/AMhYqvYjKkhcWk5f1fZAFhj+KYxqprO1UVHGNxRrdPHnzWG+e6Whd7b 1NIhVkO3rbC3my1+LFBrnFJN0jipQLvx6j/e9wqPZCBWKAvVSuxOvBlFqdHfZlloV5Ts chyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1711536895; x=1712141695; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :subject:cc:to:from:date:sender:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=xU/0fUHYsH9bADgWReVo+eSSuH9cOgf5YGSzM4YOkBg=; b=C/dwKx7KRQ/B4DSWcq/Pqvg0XHY9CZPklyS0ghiU/ycZAmwnOXfrcMMNYX2SqDcXs8 nHhH1HbNtnvd20X4FiZxT00BjXrf1UNiVX9MwPedwDe5eCXoAol7uR+JIoaz++AijIuD SBZyDZhpP2jSoY4Yb7GHfs0FpBGo5KMs6fUEQ+zIIteEDKiSqNbNgbrkeeKLUIl2jALl R9clu0g49cSbzj8up2FMJLit9/dfdHeF812hyqGIYfrKi6nrDxRWhc4ODjXsPGh3LTqU Pqj2PLE2gIso1Ev0QTTE9BgqVm4iYzXdyReJgAMkyJNCG3xTs9CupRTiYqp75nAeWOwG R+xg== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXDlba73ziNIdPQPH816Y34huHuxsY/L484zJcxxT1YQt85PNCHphFu6pmDKIKTn5mG+6vfRfU/hAOPfl8ZAZNmiWb1+dgPtrutTfWg X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzBD7z7OFICq2orvZNqmVgEKKftzBu6iZeO2hhDodJXbKX978AG YQlqDYxeYezkbgutUOLf/YXJB8U9IFzlnLMTxKv0unneh4QSJ9rFOSi6EFjKU2U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF3ACfmCcsCGcKuTjpAaQqxVqPYbYs5AaFdxGWwxBBkY/dQljOVQ6UacIdNow0vO+jXz1HXPg== X-Received: by 2002:a50:9f8d:0:b0:568:c2e5:ae9a with SMTP id c13-20020a509f8d000000b00568c2e5ae9amr3937577edf.5.1711536894902; Wed, 27 Mar 2024 03:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.caipicrew.dd-dns.de ([2001:a61:a0e:9401:f815:e42b:c961:9a62]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h9-20020a0564020e0900b0056c36a36389sm989583edh.19.2024.03.27.03.54.54 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 Mar 2024 03:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <6603fafe.050a0220.48abe.5d5b@mx.google.com> X-Google-Original-Message-ID: <20240327105453.GR17618@caipicrew.dd-dns.de;lightning.caipicrew.dd-dns.de> Sender: Michael Banck Received: from mbanck by lightning.caipicrew.dd-dns.de with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rpQvm-0006Vy-23; Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:54:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2024 11:54:54 +0100 From: Michael Banck To: Laurenz Albe Cc: Tom Lane , Nathan Bossart , vignesh C , "Kumar, Sachin" , Robins Tharakan , Jan Wieck , Bruce Momjian , Andrew Dunstan , Magnus Hagander , Peter Eisentraut , "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" Subject: Re: pg_upgrade failing for 200+ million Large Objects References: <240D05EC-8B28-4112-BEAB-85ECBAF3F871@amazon.com> <2055911.1702258962@sss.pgh.pa.us> <557FD681-3929-44A1-87B2-6B5E10C4A66B@amazon.com> <842242.1706287466@sss.pgh.pa.us> <4a3ebf7d81bfc6dd4d545e5b27d6e8f6c32d8937.camel@cybertec.at> <3023817.1710629175@sss.pgh.pa.us> <6603e4e0.500a0220.a557f.4f39@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk Hi, On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 10:53:51AM +0100, Laurenz Albe wrote: > On Wed, 2024-03-27 at 10:20 +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > Also, is there a chance this is going to be back-patched? I guess it > > would be enough if the ugprade target is v17 so it is less of a concern, > > but it would be nice if people with millions of large objects are not > > stuck until they are ready to ugprade to v17. > > It is a quite invasive patch, and it adds new features (pg_restore in > bigger transaction patches), so I think this is not for backpatching, > desirable as it may seem from the usability angle. Right, I forgot about those changes, makes sense. Michael