Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1snv26-006wWl-TP for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:11:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1snv25-008Dbu-SS for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:11:25 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1snv25-008Dbm-IH for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:11:25 +0000 Received: from mail-ej1-x62d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::62d]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1snv21-000QuW-At for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:11:24 +0000 Received: by mail-ej1-x62d.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a8d2b24b7a8so469739266b.1 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 00:11:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1725952281; x=1726557081; darn=postgresql.org; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :subject:cc:to:from:date:sender:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=hBTOd6mMxqJkHcYyKjikFxCeAKI4XkV5OL4/Q91WUao=; b=TmtTVcPjAgOi0QfNzBDm4d1yymfxqVyO1Xs+V/c5aJY63fio8jWhQklUI9lz/FxyoY 91eAhHGwWsg/+00mmbAvt/gzx0xzENZ44V/vVNeeCi9I2IEmXsyakEt7SFONgVY6sor0 BhS/i28XEfssqpTqrOH8tGBSjLsafhgGp8AVVMVJ2aDVoD9TyRfgNooo4GPRkMvd30I7 QuIEshvwIYQ6YQZlRWGFSg32g3cgPb+ZYviyEz8amv0ZqJ+lzS4QAMQKuZYQX7WREDaO JwlHUVrmWsMFM5cctOHZzFMPRKdJKctpNzizIkfOjO52ljvmWHrYX5XwpLJbe2/IhsAQ QRXA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1725952281; x=1726557081; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version:references :subject:cc:to:from:date:sender:message-id:x-gm-message-state:from :to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=hBTOd6mMxqJkHcYyKjikFxCeAKI4XkV5OL4/Q91WUao=; b=MrimXT5RCghXB1wsC6Y+jo6iKQ5/5RhRD28CG5Rq2e6FCHihDBoH694OW8UfH4d3am UZ8Gvc+Gaof1XmQOnlpAUf2BplC9It6QNCigjWOnkWz3CqnIzIK9eywzAgtL8WI91DE5 uoduZtABjddEhNuyniirto2YwUJvcV7K58x35SOKdW6XJdXZf10/ozrrWb3GXarSVFeg bIA4l/bjwLFR5QB0/QNqNUwN8ypq/CoqE/YUpW0mp2hXgYdexT/ViOagouz5GKbu89O7 6d6q7+e+fuVeEWJ1m+5yHdDMUqZ6nZItVOd7Bl3bxZQ4p2iUc0oDowsxs95J9dTJ5Ggh S94g== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCXat8nFFlcvvffPwYODk2ptStYDBup+GrDRUca923u+YCjNFEbrzTnZsxshrrSscsVx8SBEUEnI1hOhn5ou@postgresql.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx9ltAhm68BvfWe2zNeB6rczdHlge+l4twwczBN0e+G2exkbzgN 7Nb7SRDTigmm+0/4I8G76tIWCNszTvN1kl4FMInyKkPrb6v7kBLq X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE+aY3nTo3yE1lCv+OPmNmkakdmn6uzJ+BWCCk3pxpDR6gtCiKpAdTyc7C3H8hcai3xAGKrkw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:7d8b:b0:a72:7a71:7f4f with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a8d72bca1a0mr201860066b.7.1725952280291; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 00:11:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lightning.caipicrew.dd-dns.de ([2001:a61:10a7:1a01:2a0:7804:2d71:4b2e]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a640c23a62f3a-a8d25c72815sm441586166b.140.2024.09.10.00.11.19 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 10 Sep 2024 00:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <66dff117.170a0220.161be7.d32d@mx.google.com> X-Google-Original-Message-ID: <20240910071119.GB19787@caipicrew.dd-dns.de;lightning.caipicrew.dd-dns.de> Sender: Michael Banck Received: from mbanck by lightning.caipicrew.dd-dns.de with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1snv1z-00042Y-9H; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:11:19 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:11:19 +0200 From: Michael Banck To: Bruce Momjian Cc: Nathan Bossart , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org Subject: Re: First draft of PG 17 release notes References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 09:51:25PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 10:44:01AM -0500, Nathan Bossart wrote: > > While freely acknowledging that I am biased because I wrote it, I am a bit > > surprised to see the DSM registry left out of the release notes (commit > > 8b2bcf3, docs are here [0]). This feature is intended to allow modules to > > allocate shared memory after startup, i.e., without requiring the module to > > be loaded via shared_preload_libraries. IMHO that is worth mentioning. > > > > [0] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/devel/xfunc-c.html#XFUNC-SHARED-ADDIN-AFTER-STARTUP > > That seems more infrastructure/extension author stuff which isn't > normally mentioned in the release notes. If I understand the feature correctly, it allows extensions to be just CREATEd without having them to be added to shared_preload_libraries, i.e. saving the organization an instance restart/downtime. That seems important enough for end-users to know, even if they will need to wait for extension authors to catch up to this (but I guess a lot will). Michael