Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAGW0-0004Xv-Mp for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:39:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAGVz-0008D0-94 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:39:43 +0000 Received: from magus.postgresql.org ([2a02:c0:301:0:ffff::29]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAGVz-0008Cj-0D for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:39:43 +0000 Received: from sss.pgh.pa.us ([66.207.139.130]) by magus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iAGVw-0006QT-3U for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 16:39:42 +0000 Received: from sss1.sss.pgh.pa.us (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sss.pgh.pa.us (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id x8HGdX6I007362; Tue, 17 Sep 2019 12:39:33 -0400 From: Tom Lane To: Robert Haas cc: Tomas Vondra , Michael Paquier , Andres Freund , Thomas Munro , PostgreSQL Hackers Subject: Re: subscriptionCheck failures on nightjar In-reply-to: References: <29708.1550079455@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190213174151.mfylkessxmapt4io@alap3.anarazel.de> <30608.1550080759@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190213181225.fathyapig4sm4exa@alap3.anarazel.de> <31663.1550082243@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190213183303.ns54frt7cmvo6pgg@alap3.anarazel.de> <1466.1550085086@sss.pgh.pa.us> <20190213215147.cjbymfojf6xndr4t@alap3.anarazel.de> <20190813080435.GL2551@paquier.xyz> <20190826132904.3ayuw36qzl2c4ktr@development> Comments: In-reply-to Robert Haas message dated "Tue, 17 Sep 2019 11:54:45 -0400" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <7360.1568738373.1@sss.pgh.pa.us> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2019 12:39:33 -0400 Message-ID: <7361.1568738373@sss.pgh.pa.us> List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk Robert Haas writes: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 9:29 AM Tomas Vondra > wrote: >> This is one of the remaining open items, and we don't seem to be moving >> forward with it :-( > Why exactly is this an open item, anyway? The reason it's still here is that Andres expressed a concern that there might be more than meets the eye in this. What meets the eye is that PANICing on file-not-found is not appropriate here, but Andres seemed to think that the file not being present might reflect an actual bug not just an expectable race condition [1]. Personally I'd be happy just to treat it as an expectable case and fix the code to not PANIC on file-not-found. In either case, it probably belongs in the "older bugs" section; nightjar is showing the same failure on v11 from time to time. regards, tom lane [1] https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/20190213215147.cjbymfojf6xndr4t%= 40alap3.anarazel.de