Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jmCTR-0001Vc-Rz for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:34:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jmCTQ-0005Rg-Gg for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:34:08 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jmCTQ-0005RZ-9X for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:34:08 +0000 Received: from oss.nttdata.com ([49.212.34.109]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jmCTM-0000qc-Pb for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 08:34:07 +0000 Received: from hnk.local (p2604028-ipngn12401funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp [180.1.110.28]) by oss.nttdata.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CECFD60120; Fri, 19 Jun 2020 17:34:01 +0900 (JST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.3 at oss.nttdata.com Subject: Re: min_safe_lsn column in pg_replication_slots view To: Kyotaro Horiguchi , michael@paquier.xyz Cc: amit.kapila16@gmail.com, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org References: <20200619013958.GC453547@paquier.xyz> <3b016893-9638-4f99-a1d0-bce007e8242a@oss.nttdata.com> <20200619073609.GF453547@paquier.xyz> <20200619.164304.392203744101291087.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> From: Fujii Masao Message-ID: <81f74732-fca5-4f4b-1f52-645f84a8d9fa@oss.nttdata.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2020 17:34:01 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200619.164304.392203744101291087.horikyota.ntt@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Precedence: bulk On 2020/06/19 16:43, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote: > At Fri, 19 Jun 2020 16:36:09 +0900, Michael Paquier wrote in >> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 04:13:27PM +0900, Fujii Masao wrote: >>> Agreed. But isn't it too late to remove the columns (i.e., change >>> the catalog) for v13? Because v13 beta1 was already released. >>> IIUC the catalog should not be changed since beta1 release so that >>> users can upgrade PostgreSQL without initdb. >> >> Catalog bumps have happened in the past between beta versions: >> git log -p REL_12_BETA1..REL_12_BETA2 src/include/catalog/catversion.h >> git log -p REL_11_BETA1..REL_11_BETA2 src/include/catalog/catversion.h >> git log -p REL_10_BETA1..REL_10_BETA2 src/include/catalog/catversion.h >> >> So we usually avoid to do that between betas, but my take here is that >> a catalog bump is better than regretting a change we may have to live >> with after the release is sealed. Sounds reasonable. Regards, -- Fujii Masao Advanced Computing Technology Center Research and Development Headquarters NTT DATA CORPORATION