Received: from malur.postgresql.org ([217.196.149.56]) by arkaria.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjxe9-0000xR-KJ for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 07:33:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=malur.postgresql.org) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjxe8-0001Tz-G8 for pgsql-hackers@arkaria.postgresql.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 07:33:32 +0000 Received: from makus.postgresql.org ([2001:4800:3e1:1::229]) by malur.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjxe8-0001Tp-6C for pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 07:33:32 +0000 Received: from new2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.224]) by makus.postgresql.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjxe5-0001Mp-Ky for pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 07:33:31 +0000 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailnew.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4FF55821BD; Wed, 5 Apr 2023 03:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 05 Apr 2023 03:33:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:content-type:date:date:feedback-id:feedback-id :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:sender:subject:subject:to:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1680680008; x=1680687208; bh=AqgOb0rxaDk0FuL9jPwjaXz7d8fRqusfqwA ibUmIbvU=; b=oMkdIK2giEwGoRppJgzSQgegmflFak4+Ln7Kx5wuFm8eA/ckcHx 6FrVtrCuyvbpSwwvTZLg0wfTLyN7RdBv0SePj/9v+oH+plbSXL4Pyqs9wBCIGrp7 +YaRvRKtLQdSulNszXNEi5VzGUhrlM6ujJ+98hLwk3KtJ6KDa72fZKza4Ox6igTm lQP2opDwtH0AF/kYfye8aO7+2ExTp941vIMhLOF6kWJpHphrwnuTIhi4LCOQjam6 90YYesozertlgr7IsfDuw4T+JhxwEmqsWxk2mUr/pJnv+cU76w31Xq1Q0miQmTGR 1JuStw6GXpyw6IyglVveniiklZJr1/CpPmw== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvhedrvdejtddguddulecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfgh necuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmd enucfjughrpefkffggfgfuhffvvehfjggtgfesthekredttdefjeenucfhrhhomheprfgv thgvrhcugfhishgvnhhtrhgruhhtuceophgvthgvrhdrvghishgvnhhtrhgruhhtsegvnh htvghrphhrihhsvggusgdrtghomheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepfeejveffhedutddu ueeuhfegveefteelffettdefveeikeffieffjeehtdevgeefnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuih iivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepphgvthgvrhdrvghishgvnhhtrhgr uhhtsegvnhhtvghrphhrihhsvggusgdrtghomh X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: i131946ab:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 5 Apr 2023 03:33:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <82c4c816-06f6-d3e3-ba02-fca4a5cef065@enterprisedb.com> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 09:33:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.1 Subject: Re: Move defaults toward ICU in 16? Content-Language: en-US From: Peter Eisentraut To: Jeff Davis , Andres Freund , Bruce Momjian Cc: Tom Lane , Thomas Munro , Robert Haas , pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org References: <5ffeafe843d43a975f31479fbd211ab88404841b.camel@j-davis.com> <2a7feb71dbdcea31478b3974b8075982ac2326d2.camel@j-davis.com> <20230217170523.ujnq3qr75rolfrmu@awork3.anarazel.de> <20230217180909.oqxjgjudbsofn666@awork3.anarazel.de> <3bf6b5517033947c134ed1ba9a325179a608bfd1.camel@j-davis.com> <20230217205009.4sy4lmmqanbhjsgb@awork3.anarazel.de> <558f794c351fb73596e4b05d96f66d01d56b4a50.camel@j-davis.com> <438b15cf88c9c5cf0cf1c24bf7b835d6362a8e0c.camel@j-davis.com> <10bb0e53ba16e5865ea4d37575ee15d4df5dc043.camel@j-davis.com> <0ad3543a-40d9-17f9-794f-75ea0106544a@enterprisedb.com> <27767473241239ed7b518fc7c4c78d98e2376b3a.camel@j-davis.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: Precedence: bulk On 16.03.23 14:52, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > On 09.03.23 20:14, Jeff Davis wrote: >>> Let's come back to that after dealing with the other two. >> >> Leaving 0001 open for now. > > I suspect making a change like this now would result in a bloodbath on > the build farm that we could do without.  I suggest revisiting this > after the commit fest ends. I don't object to this patch. I suggest waiting until next week to commit it and then see what happens. It's easy to revert if it goes terribly.